Diabetes Talking

Question:

In article <3E9F7B62.F0B3B…@badger.tds.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - CyberCafe <p…@badger.tds.net> wrote: > REP wrote: > > In article <3E9CF4AE.C99D8…@badger.tds.net>, > >  CyberCafe <p…@badger.tds.net> wrote: > > > Misty, what kinds of tests did the doctor perform during the examination. > > > Did > > > he test for ova and parasites.  Did they check for diabetes or perform any > > > other > > > tests. > > For what it’s worth, the symptoms she mentions are not symptoms of > > diabetes. Some common symptoms of diabetes are increased thirst and > > urination; blurred vision; unusual weight loss and recurrent yeast > > infections. Chronic diarrhea is not a symptom and, alas, does not go > > away even with excellent sugar control. > I am aware of the symptoms of diabetes as my doctors monitor me for that very > closely.

Good. Then you know that diabetes has no symptoms in common with IBS.

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REP wrote: > In article <3E9CF4AE.C99D8…@badger.tds.net>, >  CyberCafe <p…@badger.tds.net> wrote: > > Misty, what kinds of tests did the doctor perform during the examination. > > Did > > he test for ova and parasites.  Did they check for diabetes or perform any > > other > > tests. > For what it’s worth, the symptoms she mentions are not symptoms of > diabetes. Some common symptoms of diabetes are increased thirst and > urination; blurred vision; unusual weight loss and recurrent yeast > infections. Chronic diarrhea is not a symptom and, alas, does not go > away even with excellent sugar control.

I am aware of the symptoms of diabetes as my doctors monitor me for that very closely.  Basically, as I said in the response, was I was trying to get a feel for the types of tests performed and the quality of the physical exam.  From what she indicated in her initial message, it didn’t sound like a thorough exam.  I was simply trying to initiate more response, more information, from this person.  I don’t have the time or desire to type every single test her doctor could have performed. Barb

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Misty wrote: > > > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so > please > > > bare with me. > > No complaints here – but a lot of envy that you are polylingual. If I > > over-explain terms you know, please forgive me! > I forgive… LOL > > > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and > all > > > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, > at > > > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower > side > > > of my belly. > > Do you have any other symptoms, such as fever or bloody stools with > > these attacks? If so, I have something very similar. My doctor says it > > is not IBS or spastic colon, mostly because of findings such as the > > bloody stool, inflamation in my terminal ilieum (that’s the part of the > > small intestine that connects to the colon), fever and an elevated ESR > > (Westegren sedimentation rate; a non-specific measure of inflammation in > > the body) that are never present with IBS. > The only other thing I have is when I have my period I’m in excruciating > pains.

Flare-up of symptoms during that time of month is common in women with IBS. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When I need to go to the toilet I’m scared, it hurts so much more than > usual. > But no, no fevers. I had that only once with my first attack, I never > experience fever > and I haven’t got a clue why. > Sometimes when the feaces is so thick there can be some blood, but I suspect > it’s because my skin around the anus has become thin and tears more easily. > I do have occasional slime and weird colors. > > I’ve had a lot of diagnoses – chronic subclinical appendicitis, Familial > > Mediterranean Family Fever (which also happens in those of Ashkenazi or > > Shephardic Jew desecent) and the latest one is possible mild Crohn’s. > > Since it isn’t known what exactly it is that I have, I can’t offer much > > advice – just sympathy. I take Vicodin (hydrocodone and acetominphen) to > > control the pain. In most people it causes constipation, but I’ve never > > had that happen; in fact, it hardly slows the diarrhea at all. I was on > > colchicine for a while, and I might try taking it again, but it didn’t > > do anything for the fevers. > > The next time you have a serious attack, you might want to see if you > > can have a CT scan done. Sometimes abnormalities can only be seen when > > the symptoms are at their worst. > > Good luck! > I had a scan done once after my first attack (we call it echoscopy you know > like they do with pregnancies)

LOL, that’s called an ultrasound here.  There is a similiar test called a Doppler where they can look at veins and such.  The Doppler test is often used to find blood clots in the legs (have had that test myself a few times). > They found nothing out of the ordinary, except a not fully grown kidney. > My bowel looked alright at that point. > I had a stressy day today and I was on and off the toilet, I couldn’t really > eat. > I’m back at the doctors office in the morning to discuss it all and try to > get some more help with this. > One other thing… has anyone ever heard of this, IBS can have related joint > pain? > I read that on the net at a Dutch IBS site, I’ve been having joint pain > almost as long as I have IBS. Is there a connection?

Haven’t heard that before, but thanks for providing that interesting information. Barb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And REP thanks, sometimes a listening ear can do a world of good too. > ) > Misty.

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In article <YJkna.294446$gl2.9750…@castor.casema.net>,  "Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote: > The only other thing I have is when I have my period I’m in excruciating > pains.

That’s called "being a girl." I was on Depo-Provera for 10 years, and didn’t have any periods. I was sterilized last year, and am making up for all those missed periods! My bowel symptoms, though, are the same no matter what part of my cycle I’m in; during my perid, though, I have uterine pain in addition to the right-sided pain. Not Fun. > When I need to go to the toilet I’m scared, it hurts so much more than > usual. > But no, no fevers. I had that only once with my first attack, I never > experience fever > and I haven’t got a clue why.

That may actually be a good thing. Fevers are not part of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (what I call spastic colon), and IBS is never life-threatening/ > Sometimes when the feaces is so thick there can be some blood, but I suspect > it’s because my skin around the anus has become thin and tears more easily. > I do have occasional slime and weird colors.

Bloody stool is either blood in the stool mass, or loose blood in the toilet. Blood on the toilet paper is usually from hemorrhoids, fissures, abrasions, etc – not from the intestine itself. > I had a scan done once after my first attack (we call it echoscopy you know > like they do with pregnancies)

In the US, those are called sonograms. A CT is computer-aided tomography, and the patient drinks a NASTY dye or barium solution, and is put on a table that enters the CT device. A CT can image things a sonogram cannot (I’ve had both). > They found nothing out of the ordinary, except a not fully grown kidney.

Yikes. > One other thing… has anyone ever heard of this, IBS can have related joint > pain? > I read that on the net at a Dutch IBS site, I’ve been having joint pain > almost as long as I have IBS. Is there a connection?

Yes and no. Some theories of IBS center on the patient being attention-seeking, and over-dramatizing normal aches and pains. Others relate fibromylagia – a term and diagnosis much in debate in the US – with IBS. On the other hand, IBD (inflammatory bowel disease) are autoimmune disorders and patients with IBD often have arthritis or other joint problems.

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I have heard where Intestinal parasites can cause all the symptoms of IBS and also joint pain and fatigue..I just happened to read about this other evening. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One other thing… has anyone ever heard of this, IBS can have related joint > pain? > I read that on the net at a Dutch IBS site, I’ve been having joint pain > almost as long as I have IBS. Is there a connection? > And REP thanks, sometimes a listening ear can do a world of good too. > ) > Misty.

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Hi Barb. The funny thing is, my doctor heard my symptoms and the pattern it sometimes takes, and a listen to my belly and some feeling around (wich was painful in some spots) Got an echoscopy… can anyone tell me the word for this, I forgot. And the continueing returns to the doc when it got all bad again. I looked up IBS on some specialist sites and I have all the classic symptoms, so my doc wasn’t wrong about it. I don’t have diabetes, I know because I have to get regular blood check ups for my meds for Psoriasis. I never saw any specialist about my condition, but in the morning when I’m at the docs office I will talk about it. I need to get some good advice especially for the cramps, that can be really bad at times. Misty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Misty, what kinds of tests did the doctor perform during the examination. Did > he test for ova and parasites.  Did they check for diabetes or perform any other > tests.  I’m just trying to get a feel here for what type of examination was > performed.  Have you seen this doctor, or any other doctor, since 1997? > Barb

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In article <3E9CF4AE.C99D8…@badger.tds.net>,  CyberCafe <p…@badger.tds.net> wrote: > Misty, what kinds of tests did the doctor perform during the examination.   > Did > he test for ova and parasites.  Did they check for diabetes or perform any > other > tests.

For what it’s worth, the symptoms she mentions are not symptoms of diabetes. Some common symptoms of diabetes are increased thirst and urination; blurred vision; unusual weight loss and recurrent yeast infections. Chronic diarrhea is not a symptom and, alas, does not go away even with excellent sugar control.

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> > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > > bare with me. > No complaints here – but a lot of envy that you are polylingual. If I > over-explain terms you know, please forgive me!

I forgive… LOL > > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > > of my belly. > Do you have any other symptoms, such as fever or bloody stools with > these attacks? If so, I have something very similar. My doctor says it > is not IBS or spastic colon, mostly because of findings such as the > bloody stool, inflamation in my terminal ilieum (that’s the part of the > small intestine that connects to the colon), fever and an elevated ESR > (Westegren sedimentation rate; a non-specific measure of inflammation in > the body) that are never present with IBS.

The only other thing I have is when I have my period I’m in excruciating pains. When I need to go to the toilet I’m scared, it hurts so much more than usual. But no, no fevers. I had that only once with my first attack, I never experience fever and I haven’t got a clue why. Sometimes when the feaces is so thick there can be some blood, but I suspect it’s because my skin around the anus has become thin and tears more easily. I do have occasional slime and weird colors. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve had a lot of diagnoses – chronic subclinical appendicitis, Familial > Mediterranean Family Fever (which also happens in those of Ashkenazi or > Shephardic Jew desecent) and the latest one is possible mild Crohn’s. > Since it isn’t known what exactly it is that I have, I can’t offer much > advice – just sympathy. I take Vicodin (hydrocodone and acetominphen) to > control the pain. In most people it causes constipation, but I’ve never > had that happen; in fact, it hardly slows the diarrhea at all. I was on > colchicine for a while, and I might try taking it again, but it didn’t > do anything for the fevers. > The next time you have a serious attack, you might want to see if you > can have a CT scan done. Sometimes abnormalities can only be seen when > the symptoms are at their worst. > Good luck!

I had a scan done once after my first attack (we call it echoscopy you know like they do with pregnancies) They found nothing out of the ordinary, except a not fully grown kidney. My bowel looked alright at that point. I had a stressy day today and I was on and off the toilet, I couldn’t really eat. I’m back at the doctors office in the morning to discuss it all and try to get some more help with this. One other thing… has anyone ever heard of this, IBS can have related joint pain? I read that on the net at a Dutch IBS site, I’ve been having joint pain almost as long as I have IBS. Is there a connection? And REP thanks, sometimes a listening ear can do a world of good too. ) Misty.

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In article <0FUma.306931$dW6.10465…@pollux.casema.net>,  "Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote: > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > bare with me.

No complaints here – but a lot of envy that you are polylingual. If I over-explain terms you know, please forgive me! > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > of my belly.

Do you have any other symptoms, such as fever or bloody stools with these attacks? If so, I have something very similar. My doctor says it is not IBS or spastic colon, mostly because of findings such as the bloody stool, inflamation in my terminal ilieum (that’s the part of the small intestine that connects to the colon), fever and an elevated ESR (Westegren sedimentation rate; a non-specific measure of inflammation in the body) that are never present with IBS. I’ve had a lot of diagnoses – chronic subclinical appendicitis, Familial Mediterranean Family Fever (which also happens in those of Ashkenazi or Shephardic Jew desecent) and the latest one is possible mild Crohn’s. Since it isn’t known what exactly it is that I have, I can’t offer much advice – just sympathy. I take Vicodin (hydrocodone and acetominphen) to control the pain. In most people it causes constipation, but I’ve never had that happen; in fact, it hardly slows the diarrhea at all. I was on colchicine for a while, and I might try taking it again, but it didn’t do anything for the fevers. The next time you have a serious attack, you might want to see if you can have a CT scan done. Sometimes abnormalities can only be seen when the symptoms are at their worst. Good luck!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Misty wrote: > Hi all. > I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > bare with me. > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > of my belly. > After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic colon. > Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive > cramps. > Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. > All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, my > doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available to > me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a week. > I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses > Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the > stuff. > Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things go? > Any input is much apreciated. > Misty.

Misty, what kinds of tests did the doctor perform during the examination.  Did he test for ova and parasites.  Did they check for diabetes or perform any other tests.  I’m just trying to get a feel here for what type of examination was performed.  Have you seen this doctor, or any other doctor, since 1997? Barb

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Why take expensive herbalife when I get my meds through my insurance? I think you’re spamming. Metamucil is harmless, the fibre is of a solubal kind and is extremely well suited for people with bowel problems. Go away with your Herbalife, I get a blockage just thinking about it! Misty. "R Harnett" <rrharn…@yahoo.ca> schreef in bericht news:549dd0bc.0304151331.d1f02c8@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Misty, I am in Canada and I have the same problem…well I did.  I > started taking herbalife.  It works great for me.  I couldn’t take > metamucil becuase anything like that or "FIBRE" stuff just made it > worse.  I used to get serious pains that made me vomit, sweat, shake, > and see spots. It would wake me at 4 or 5am in the morning becuase of > the runs.  Anyways, I started on this and it has improved it greatly. > I like the idea of being on vitamins not drugs.  I hope this has been > of somehelp. visit www.innerhealth4yourself.com > I am on the Ultimate program with the florafibre and the aloe.  I am > also 29 and I have a little girl and a 10 year old step son.  I tried > lots of stuff for over 5 years and this is the only thing that has > worked for me. Become a member and get great deals.  Even though you > are far away, they’ll accommodate if your interested.   Good luck to > you. > "Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote in message

<news:0FUma.306931$dW6.10465817@pollux.casema.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hi all. > > I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. > > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > > bare with me. > > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > > of my belly. > > After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic colon. > > Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive > > cramps. > > Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. > > All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, my > > doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available to > > me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a week. > > I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses > > Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the > > stuff. > > Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things go? > > Any input is much apreciated. > > Misty.

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Thanks, I know that Herbalife can do harm for people with intestine problems. I will never ever touch the stuff. Misty. "R.A.D" <4me2…@4u2fndout.com> schreef in bericht news:n4%ma.225885$Zo.42502@sccrnsc03… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Run Misty Run your being approached by the herbalife cult something she > fails to tell you is also that herbalife products contain ephedra > "R Harnett" <rrharn…@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:549dd0bc.0304151331.d1f02c8@posting.google.com… > > Misty, I am in Canada and I have the same problem…well I did.  I > > started taking herbalife.  It works great for me.  I couldn’t take > > metamucil becuase anything like that or "FIBRE" stuff just made it > > worse.  I used to get serious pains that made me vomit, sweat, shake, > > and see spots. It would wake me at 4 or 5am in the morning becuase of > > the runs.  Anyways, I started on this and it has improved it greatly. > > I like the idea of being on vitamins not drugs.  I hope this has been > > of somehelp. visit www.innerhealth4yourself.com > > I am on the Ultimate program with the florafibre and the aloe.  I am > > also 29 and I have a little girl and a 10 year old step son.  I tried > > lots of stuff for over 5 years and this is the only thing that has > > worked for me. Become a member and get great deals.  Even though you > > are far away, they’ll accommodate if your interested.   Good luck to > > you. > > "Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote in message > <news:0FUma.306931$dW6.10465817@pollux.casema.net>… > > > Hi all. > > > I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. > > > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so > please > > > bare with me. > > > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and > all > > > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, > at > > > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower > side > > > of my belly. > > > After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic > colon. > > > Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive > > > cramps. > > > Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. > > > All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, > my > > > doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available > to > > > me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a > week. > > > I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses > > > Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the > > > stuff. > > > Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things > go? > > > Any input is much apreciated. > > > Misty.

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Run Misty Run your being approached by the herbalife cult something she fails to tell you is also that herbalife products contain ephedra "R Harnett" <rrharn…@yahoo.ca> wrote in message

news:549dd0bc.0304151331.d1f02c8@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Misty, I am in Canada and I have the same problem…well I did.  I > started taking herbalife.  It works great for me.  I couldn’t take > metamucil becuase anything like that or "FIBRE" stuff just made it > worse.  I used to get serious pains that made me vomit, sweat, shake, > and see spots. It would wake me at 4 or 5am in the morning becuase of > the runs.  Anyways, I started on this and it has improved it greatly. > I like the idea of being on vitamins not drugs.  I hope this has been > of somehelp. visit www.innerhealth4yourself.com > I am on the Ultimate program with the florafibre and the aloe.  I am > also 29 and I have a little girl and a 10 year old step son.  I tried > lots of stuff for over 5 years and this is the only thing that has > worked for me. Become a member and get great deals.  Even though you > are far away, they’ll accommodate if your interested.   Good luck to > you. > "Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote in message

<news:0FUma.306931$dW6.10465817@pollux.casema.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hi all. > > I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. > > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > > bare with me. > > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > > of my belly. > > After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic colon. > > Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive > > cramps. > > Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. > > All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, my > > doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available to > > me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a week. > > I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses > > Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the > > stuff. > > Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things go? > > Any input is much apreciated. > > Misty.

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Misty, I am in Canada and I have the same problem…well I did.  I started taking herbalife.  It works great for me.  I couldn’t take metamucil becuase anything like that or "FIBRE" stuff just made it worse.  I used to get serious pains that made me vomit, sweat, shake, and see spots. It would wake me at 4 or 5am in the morning becuase of the runs.  Anyways, I started on this and it has improved it greatly. I like the idea of being on vitamins not drugs.  I hope this has been of somehelp. visit www.innerhealth4yourself.com I am on the Ultimate program with the florafibre and the aloe.  I am also 29 and I have a little girl and a 10 year old step son.  I tried lots of stuff for over 5 years and this is the only thing that has worked for me. Become a member and get great deals.  Even though you are far away, they’ll accommodate if your interested.   Good luck to you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Misty" <misty_666NOIDON’TLIKEJUNKM…@vampyres.tk> wrote in message <news:0FUma.306931$dW6.10465817@pollux.casema.net>… > Hi all. > I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. > I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please > bare with me. > In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all > that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at > first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side > of my belly. > After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic colon. > Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive > cramps. > Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. > All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, my > doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available to > me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a week. > I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses > Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the > stuff. > Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things go? > Any input is much apreciated. > Misty.

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Hi all. I’m a 29 year old female from Holland and I have IBS. I’m not up to date on English terms you use for certain conditions so please bare with me. In winter ‘97 I got an attack of the bowels, I had the runs badly and all that came out was water. I had that for a weeek untill I saw the doctor, at first he thought of appendicitis because I had pain on the right lower side of my belly. After a little examining he came to the conclusion I had a spastic colon. Now in 2003 I’ve had several attacks of the runs and sometimes massive cramps. Lately I’ve been experiencing blockage in the colon instead of the runs. All are accompanied by cramps by the way. All I ever get is Metamucil, my doctor never sent me to a specialist and the Metamucil is only available to me when I have a huge attack or when I have the runs for longer than a week. I don’t ever get anything to reduce cramping, and a dear friend who uses Metamucil for  Colitus is sometimes kind enough to provide me with the stuff. Should I do more to push my doctor or should I leave it the way things go? Any input is much apreciated. Misty.

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