Diabetes Talking

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I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ?

Legally, it is pretty much like they were copying it. A US webstore was selling Brazilian liquid Splenda.  MacNeil, who has the exclusive distribution rights for Splenda in the US, apparently got wind of it and stopped it, because the store had no right to sell non-MacNeil Splenda *in* the US.  No doubt the Brazilian manufacturer still sells it, but you’d have to find a foreign vendor to buy it from. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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ahhh I see lawyer crap. so basically they were both selling SPLENDA but only one person was "licensed" to legally do so in the US by splenda ? That makes much more sense. Typical lawyer crap. Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ? Legally, it is pretty much like they were copying it. A US webstore was selling Brazilian liquid Splenda.  MacNeil, who has the exclusive distribution rights for Splenda in the US, apparently got wind of it and stopped it, because the store had no right to sell non-MacNeil Splenda *in* the US.  No doubt the Brazilian manufacturer still sells it, but you’d have to find a foreign vendor to buy it from. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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Money. revek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – green card ??? That one missed me ? Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/ It is a puzzlement why they think and behave the way they do.  We lowcarbers think it’s a stupid policy.  Unfortunately they hold all the cards but one, and that one is green. revek I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ? I want it to make water palatable. I simply can not easily drink the amout of water I need. I currently drink a minimum of just over 100 oz of best selection splenda sweetended sparkling water. (store bought so it is not packet sweetened) No artificial flavors or colors and no caffeine Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/ why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us ? Because other liquid sweeteners never picked up much of the US market. They believe consumers prefer the convenience of packets for portability and the bulk that measures like sugar. LC is still a subset of the weight-conscious and diabetic population, most of which are not concerned by the 24g carb in a cup of Splenda, vs the 200 or so grams carb in equivalent sugar. If the carbs in Splenda are causing you a hardship, you’re probably either eating too much sweet stuff or unnecessarily staying at induction level when most people can eat 10 to 40 more grams carb and still lose. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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green card ??? That one missed me ? Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is a puzzlement why they think and behave the way they do.  We lowcarbers think it’s a stupid policy.  Unfortunately they hold all the cards but one, and that one is green. revek I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ? I want it to make water palatable. I simply can not easily drink the amout of water I need. I currently drink a minimum of just over 100 oz of best selection splenda sweetended sparkling water. (store bought so it is not packet sweetened) No artificial flavors or colors and no caffeine Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/ why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us ? Because other liquid sweeteners never picked up much of the US market. They believe consumers prefer the convenience of packets for portability and the bulk that measures like sugar. LC is still a subset of the weight-conscious and diabetic population, most of which are not concerned by the 24g carb in a cup of Splenda, vs the 200 or so grams carb in equivalent sugar. If the carbs in Splenda are causing you a hardship, you’re probably either eating too much sweet stuff or unnecessarily staying at induction level when most people can eat 10 to 40 more grams carb and still lose. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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It is a puzzlement why they think and behave the way they do.  We lowcarbers think it’s a stupid policy.  Unfortunately they hold all the cards but one, and that one is green. revek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ? I want it to make water palatable. I simply can not easily drink the amout of water I need. I currently drink a minimum of just over 100 oz of best selection splenda sweetended sparkling water. (store bought so it is not packet sweetened) No artificial flavors or colors and no caffeine Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/ why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us ? Because other liquid sweeteners never picked up much of the US market. They believe consumers prefer the convenience of packets for portability and the bulk that measures like sugar. LC is still a subset of the weight-conscious and diabetic population, most of which are not concerned by the 24g carb in a cup of Splenda, vs the 200 or so grams carb in equivalent sugar. If the carbs in Splenda are causing you a hardship, you’re probably either eating too much sweet stuff or unnecessarily staying at induction level when most people can eat 10 to 40 more grams carb and still lose. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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I still do not understand. I read somewhere that one vendor was ordered to STOP selling liquid splenda. I can understand splenda not marketing here if it is not worth it to them but WHY stop or "ORDER" another vendor from offering yor liquid product (its not like they are copying it or something is it) in the us ? I want it to make water palatable. I simply can not easily drink the amout of water I need. I currently drink a minimum of just over 100 oz of best selection splenda sweetended sparkling water. (store bought so it is not packet sweetened) No artificial flavors or colors and no caffeine Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us ? Because other liquid sweeteners never picked up much of the US market. They believe consumers prefer the convenience of packets for portability and the bulk that measures like sugar. LC is still a subset of the weight-conscious and diabetic population, most of which are not concerned by the 24g carb in a cup of Splenda, vs the 200 or so grams carb in equivalent sugar. If the carbs in Splenda are causing you a hardship, you’re probably either eating too much sweet stuff or unnecessarily staying at induction level when most people can eat 10 to 40 more grams carb and still lose. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us ?

Because other liquid sweeteners never picked up much of the US market. They believe consumers prefer the convenience of packets for portability and the bulk that measures like sugar. LC is still a subset of the weight-conscious and diabetic population, most of which are not concerned by the 24g carb in a cup of Splenda, vs the 200 or so grams carb in equivalent sugar. If the carbs in Splenda are causing you a hardship, you’re probably either eating too much sweet stuff or unnecessarily staying at induction level when most people can eat 10 to 40 more grams carb and still lose. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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why do they have a no liquid splenda in the us thing ? Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I’ve been looking into the Glycemic Index of foods and found it odd that Splenda uses maltodextrin (GI=105) as a filler to bulk up their sucralose. Is that appropriate? Generally speaking, no.  But all powder forms of AS that use 1 to 1 spooning ratios use maltodextrin– the packets use a different less bulky filler to get 2 tsp in one packet, but still comes out to .5 per tsp.  Other AS’s have liquid non carby versions of themselves, but not splenda.  We’ve been trying to get the manufacturers of Splenda to change their "no liquid Splenda in the US" policy for some time.  Care to join us in the effort? http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Splenda1/petition.html Are it’s effects on blood sugar insignificant due to the low density of the solid material which would mean a low Glycemic Load? Or do I have this all wrong? For most people, i.e. non-diabetics, it would be a small amount, considering 1 tsp. of splenda is .5 gram while sugar is 4g per, but you still have to watch how much you consume– splenda is not a free food if you are using the boxed powder or packets.  Manufacturers, on the other hand, get to use the liquid splenda, which has no fillers, therefore no carbs. revek

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Generally speaking, no.  But all powder forms of AS that use 1 to 1 spooning ratios use maltodextrin– the packets use a different less bulky filler to get 2 tsp in one packet, but still comes out to .5 per tsp.  Other AS’s have liquid non carby versions of themselves, but not splenda.  We’ve been trying to get the manufacturers of Splenda to change their "no liquid Splenda in the US" policy for some time.  Care to join us in the effort? http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Splenda1/petition.html Are it’s effects on blood sugar insignificant due to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the low density of the solid material which would mean a low Glycemic Load? Or do I have this all wrong?

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Hi I’ve been looking into the Glycemic Index of foods and found it odd that Splenda uses maltodextrin (GI=105) as a filler to bulk up their sucralose. Is that appropriate?

Generally speaking, no.  But all powder forms of AS that use 1 to 1 spooning ratios use maltodextrin– the packets use a different less bulky filler to get 2 tsp in one packet, but still comes out to .5 per tsp.  Other AS’s have liquid non carby versions of themselves, but not splenda.  We’ve been trying to get the manufacturers of Splenda to change their "no liquid Splenda in the US" policy for some time.  Care to join us in the effort? http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Splenda1/petition.html Are it’s effects on blood sugar insignificant due to the low density of the solid material which would mean a low Glycemic Load? Or do I have this all wrong?

For most people, i.e. non-diabetics, it would be a small amount, considering 1 tsp. of splenda is .5 gram while sugar is 4g per, but you still have to watch how much you consume– splenda is not a free food if you are using the boxed powder or packets.  Manufacturers, on the other hand, get to use the liquid splenda, which has no fillers, therefore no carbs. revek

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Hi I’ve been looking into the Glycemic Index of foods and found it odd that Splenda uses maltodextrin (GI=105) as a filler to bulk up their sucralose. Is that appropriate? Are it’s effects on blood sugar insignificant due to the low density of the solid material which would mean a low Glycemic Load? Or do I have this all wrong?   Kurt

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