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No, he/she’s talking about basal metabolism.  Dawn Phenomenon is a sudden spike in bg in the early AM, before waking.

Yes but *not* necessarily before waking.  Dawn phenomenon will manifest itself whether you’re awake or alseep.  The difference is that if you’re awake you can take extra fsat acting insulin to counter it to an extent. Darrin Parker A lie, even minor, left unchallenged, will be accepted by the ignorant and  uninformed, as the truth. Check out:  http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/4750/intro.htm  and go FORWARD to "The Article".

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone out there have the following problem:  No matter what I do, snack all evening on sugar free stuff or fast from about 6pm to about 7 or 8 AM my count is still close to the same, ie the 150’s to 190’s.  Then light breakfast, very light lunch, and exercise during the day.  Evening count can be from 85 to 111. As silly as it sounds, it seems as long as I keep walking or running my sugar count will be low.  Dr’s say the liver makes sugar at night, when you are asleep, whether you neeed it or not. Hi. I assume you’re Type II?  Higher bg’s in the am are common.  There can be different causes for this.  ONe of them is as your Dr pointed out.  I think he’s talking about the "Dawn Phenomenon".  

No, he/she’s talking about basal metabolism.  Dawn Phenomenon is a sudden spike in bg in the early AM, before waking. To find out what is actually going on overnight, you would have to set your alarm for 2am, then again at 4am, to take bg tests.  If it’s normal at 2 and normal at 4, but high at your usual hour of arising, then it’s DP.  However, if it is higher at 4 than at 2, it is likely due to basal metabolism. Once you & your doc know what it is, you can treat it accordingly.  It may be something simple like a small dose of oral medication at bedtime. Or it may be that you need a small injection of timed-release insulin in the evening.  But there’s no way to know for sure unless you do a complete bg profile through a period of intensive blood testing. dkc David Cohler, South Pasadena, CA Media Access Consultancy http://members.tripod.com/~dcohler/

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Anyone out there have the following problem:  No matter what I do, snack all evening on sugar free stuff or fast from about 6pm to about 7 or 8 AM my count is still close to the same, ie the 150’s to 190’s.  Then light breakfast, very light lunch, and exercise during the day.  Evening count can be from 85 to 111. As silly as it sounds, it seems as long as I keep walking or running my sugar count will be low.  Dr’s say the liver makes sugar at night, when you are asleep, whether you neeed it or not.

Hi. I assume you’re Type II?  Higher bg’s in the am are common.  There can be different causes for this.  ONe of them is as your Dr pointed out.  I think he’s talking about the "Dawn Phenomenon".   Dawn Phenomenon is where in the am large amounts of hormones are relaesed into the body in order to prepare it for the coming day.  This causes the liver to release stored "sugar" and hences raises the bg in the am. This effect is present in everyone but in diabetics shows up as high bg’s in the am for some.  It varies widely from person to person.  IMHO:  You am bg’s are not that bad anyway so don’t worry about them.  Just keep an eye on them. Darrin Parker A lie, even minor, left unchallenged, will be accepted by the ignorant and  uninformed, as the truth. Check out:  http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/4750/intro.htm  and go FORWARD to "The Article".

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Anyone out there have the following problem:  No matter what I do, snack all evening on sugar free stuff or fast from about 6pm to about 7 or 8 AM my count is still close to the same, ie the 150’s to 190’s.  Then light breakfast, very light lunch, and exercise during the day.  Evening count can be from 85 to 111. As silly as it sounds, it seems as long as I keep walking or running my sugar count will be low.  Dr’s say the liver makes sugar at night, when you are asleep, whether you neeed it or not.

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Anyone out there have the following problem:  No matter what I do, snack all evening on sugar free stuff or fast from about 6pm to about 7 or 8 AM my count is still close to the same, ie the 150’s to 190’s.  Then light breakfast, very light lunch, and exercise during the day.  Evening count can be from 85 to 111. As silly as it sounds, it seems as long as I keep walking or running my sugar count will be low.  Dr’s say the liver makes sugar at night, when you are asleep, whether you neeed it or not.

I’m new to this (type 2) and everyone is different, but here’s what helped me.  I used to eat only two meals a day.  My first meal is lunch, but due to my schedule I don’t get up until mid-morning. Eating healthier meals lowered my daytime bG, but I still woke up in the 165 to 175 range.  I added a light snack just before bedtime (midnight to 1AM).  In two days, my morning bG was in the 135 to 145 range.  By the way I try to eat CHO without fat (sandwich with fat free cheese), fruit (an apple) or vegetables.  This worked for me, but YMMV.  Good Luck. — BigAl address deleted           (corporate)

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