Diabetes Talking

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This oddly struck me as funny — and I had a surprisingly nice laugh. I also drink slimfast, usually two cans each day (and always Rich Chocolate Royale flavor, it’s the only one that goes beyond tolerable).

mmmmmm…chocolate royale This is, though, I drink them at my pdocs instructions in order to *gain* weight! I don’t eat very well when depressed, and have lost quite a bit of weight as a result (probably close to 20 pounds in the last year). My pdoc said I could try to gain weight this way, or if I lose even a couple more pounds he will sign me into the hospital whether I want to go or not. So, Distortion, think you can send me some of that weight you don’t want?

sure what part do you want? legs, bum or tummy? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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RC, how many daily calories is this?  If it’s at least 2000 I can do it, and it sounds like a good diabetic diet, but do you know if a Type I diabetic can use it? Guy

Guy,    This Diet was put together by Dr Barry Sears, use your search engine and type his name, he has a Zone website and 2 books 1. The Zone 2. Mastering The Zone He has chapters in there for diabetics the concept is simple whenever you eat, 40% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat he also lists, the good carbs and the bad carbs, good fats , bad fats etc… Check the website first, you will get tons of info there Good luck rc And when I call, will you walk gently thru my shadow, the ones who sing at night, the ones you dream of, the ones who walk away, capes pulled round them tight Cry for the Nightbird…..In the darkness its hard to see her face…SN

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This oddly struck me as funny — and I had a surprisingly nice laugh. I also drink slimfast, usually two cans each day (and always Rich Chocolate Royale flavor, it’s the only one that goes beyond tolerable). This is, though, I drink them at my pdocs instructions in order to *gain* weight! I don’t eat very well when depressed, and have lost quite a bit of weight as a result (probably close to 20 pounds in the last year). My pdoc said I could try to gain weight this way, or if I lose even a couple more pounds he will sign me into the hospital whether I want to go or not. So, Distortion, think you can send me some of that weight you don’t want? Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Get the hell off that stuff !!! I mean it , right now, do you hear me ??? If you want to go the route of a shake for this a bar for that then may I suggest the following , they are healthier and you won’t , I REPEAT gain the weight back, which with slimfast , you will !!

why does balance work and slimfast not? am i being manipulated by the better advertising agency paid for by the richer corporate fatcat? Balance Bars , come in many many flavors, I prefer Almond Brownie , you can order them online or get at any health food store

have you got shares in the company? I have a balance bar for lunch, then I have half of one midday ( 3pm ) then the other half right before I go to bed ( you must eat a little bit before bed to keep your metabolism going )

i don’t understand why balance works where slimfast fails   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Breakfast – they have Balance drink mixes, or you can get them in a can , I prefer the chocolate powder mix, you have it with 8oz lowfat milk or water, I do milk Or if you want real food , you may have the following for breakfast I whole egg – protein ( 1 block ) or 1/4 cup low fat cottage cheese 2 slices of whole grain bread toasted – carb ( 4 blocks ) 2 tsp of Natural Peanut Butter for toast – fat ( 4 blocks ) 18 oz milk ( lowfat ) – protein ( 3 blocks )  or use 6 oz milk for coffee , and 12 oz milk additional the key is to BALANCE your carbs, protein, and fat , a 40 40 30 mix . I have a ideas for dinners if you are interested. I would put you on a 4 block routine. Once you get the idea, it comes easy , and you know that when you eat one thing you must counterbalance it with another.

i think it’s only fair to inform you that you’re talking to a man who, for the past two months or more, has been washing his dirty dishes on a strictly need to use basis. if something doesn’t come out of the freezer and into the microwave or under the grill (and it’s not a takeaway either), then it doesn’t happen here. I swear after 5 weeks you will notice a major difference and it keeps working, its awesome !! You have to eat 5 times a day. Breakfast, Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Snack . Also 2 other tips 1. Chromium Picolinate ( it helps speed up the metabolism )

wow…it comes in pills? you don’t snort it? 2. Colon Cleansers ( you will find at health food stores, just trust me )

with friends like you, who needs enemas? ok thats enough, but promise me NO MORE SLIMFAST !

i really appreciate the help…i really do. i am so far in the pit of slobdom that i need instant gratification to motivate myself. i’ve got a lot of bulk i want to shift fast. that is a higher priority than keeping it off. i’m interested in finding out about these balance bars, and i’ll pop any pill that promises to deliver the goods…i’ll bet our system has made chromium picolinate illegal….sounds too good to be legal here.  thanks pete

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Get the hell off that stuff !!! I mean it , right now, do you hear me ??? If you want to go the route of a shake for this a bar for that then may I suggest the following , they are healthier and you won’t , I REPEAT gain the weight back, which with slimfast , you will !! Balance Bars , come in many many flavors, I prefer Almond Brownie , you can order them online or get at any health food store I have a balance bar for lunch, then I have half of one midday ( 3pm ) then the other half right before I go to bed ( you must eat a little bit before bed to keep your metabolism going ) Breakfast – they have Balance drink mixes, or you can get them in a can , I prefer the chocolate powder mix, you have it with 8oz lowfat milk or water, I do milk Or if you want real food , you may have the following for breakfast I whole egg – protein ( 1 block ) or 1/4 cup low fat cottage cheese 2 slices of whole grain bread toasted – carb ( 4 blocks ) 2 tsp of Natural Peanut Butter for toast – fat ( 4 blocks ) 18 oz milk ( lowfat ) – protein ( 3 blocks )  or use 6 oz milk for coffee , and 12 oz milk additional the key is to BALANCE your carbs, protein, and fat , a 40 40 30 mix . I have a ideas for dinners if you are interested. I would put you on a 4 block routine. Once you get the idea, it comes easy , and you know that when you eat one thing you must counterbalance it with another. I swear after 5 weeks you will notice a major difference and it keeps working, its awesome !! You have to eat 5 times a day. Breakfast, Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Snack . Also 2 other tips 1. Chromium Picolinate ( it helps speed up the metabolism ) 2. Colon Cleansers ( you will find at health food stores, just trust me ) ok thats enough, but promise me NO MORE SLIMFAST ! rc And when I call, will you walk gently thru my shadow, the ones who sing at night, the ones you dream of, the ones who walk away, capes pulled round them tight Cry for the Nightbird…..In the darkness its hard to see her face…SN

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mmmmmm…chocolate royale

Oh, by far. <going to get one now So, Distortion, think you can send me some of that weight you don’t want? sure what part do you want? legs, bum or tummy?

Perhaps a little of each? Perhaps especially tummy since all of my clothes are now too big. Thanks! Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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The reason that slim-fast can be used either to gain or lose weight is that it is a high nutrition drink.  For people to lose weight, they would substitute the drink for a meal, and it would supposedly give them proper nutrition anyway (it doesn’t.)  For people to gain weight, they suggest drinking it in addition to other things.  It’s also easier for someone who is having trouble eating to drink nutrition instead of eating it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This oddly struck me as funny — and I had a surprisingly nice laugh. I also drink slimfast, usually two cans each day (and always Rich Chocolate Royale flavor, it’s the only one that goes beyond tolerable). mmmmmm…chocolate royale This is, though, I drink them at my pdocs instructions in order to *gain* weight! I don’t eat very well when depressed, and have lost quite a bit of weight as a result (probably close to 20 pounds in the last year). My pdoc said I could try to gain weight this way, or if I lose even a couple more pounds he will sign me into the hospital whether I want to go or not. So, Distortion, think you can send me some of that weight you don’t want? sure what part do you want? legs, bum or tummy? Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Fiona said: Besides I’m always thirsty these days anyway. oh?

Yes, always. I sometimes feel like I’m going to turn into a lake from the amount of water I drink. It’s side-effect of my AD’s, and it’s one that I never seem to lose no matter how long I’m on the meds. Also, since I’m on lithium too, it’s just another boost toward thirsty and more motivation to stay well-hydrated. If they do nothing else for me, the meds contribute to my health by dramatically increasing my water consumption. :0 It does coincide nicely with the meds, and I don’t have any other troubling symptoms. But I do think about it. My grandfather was diabetic for well over 50 years, and insulin dependent from the day it came on the market to the day he died in the mid-1980s. doin’ the low-carb, weight-lifting thang

I was doing some weight-lifting in the summer, but I stopped and cannot seem to get back into the habit. Does the low-carb thing really make you feel better? I’ve thought about it, but I’ve never found a version that was practical for a vegetarian. Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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The reason that slim-fast can be used either to gain or lose weight is that it is a high nutrition drink.  For people to lose weight, they would substitute the drink for a meal, and it would supposedly give them proper nutrition anyway (it doesn’t.)  For people to gain weight, they suggest drinking it in addition to other things.  It’s also easier for someone who is having trouble eating to drink nutrition instead of eating it.

Yep. At least they are somewhat more nutrious than most anything else I could pick — prior to slim-fast I was supplementing with chocolate shakes from the local ice cream parlor. And I absolutely agree about drinking. For some reason drinking does not bother me the way that eating does. Besides I’m always thirsty these days anyway. Fiona * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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i think it’s only fair to inform you that you’re talking to a man who, for the past two months or more, has been washing his dirty dishes on a strictly need to use basis. if something doesn’t come out of the freezer and into the microwave or under the grill (and it’s not a takeaway either), then it doesn’t happen here.

This is so true!!  I told a friend of mine who was recently divoreced and complaining of having nothing to cook with or eat off of…. "Hey all you need is a mircowave and a fork, if it doesn’t come out of a box from the freezer it’s not eaten at my house."  Unless of course it’s on a spoon from a peanut butter jar! wow…it comes in pills? you don’t snort it?

Hmmmmm… wonder if it would burn the sinus cavity if snorted, it could be a funner way to take it. with friends like you, who needs enemas?

LOL you’re just too funny. pete

Kait "Ok, I may be a bad dog, but I’m not Evil!" * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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