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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Atheist An atheist was taking a walk through the woods. What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7 foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out: "Oh my God!…" Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky: "You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don’t exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?" The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a Christian?" "Very well," said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together and bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord Amen." Comments concerning this public service message will be taken under

Thanks :-) Let us continue to pray for those who would reject Him, out of love that comes from our Lord and Savior. They really know not what they do. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew — Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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BTW – I heard Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling praising God and Jesus after the Sox won game 6.  Schilling gave all credit to God who "was out there on the mound with me tonight". But, if that’s the case, how is it that he gave up a homer to the Yankees in the bottom of the 7th inning?

Curt is not God. If God was pitching, wouldn’t it be a "perfect game"?

Yes. Truth is simple :-) GG

You remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Christ’s holy name. May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will escape satan’s rule and torment of your soul after you die. Please do consider the following before it is too late: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew — Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems to me I heard somewhere that Christian Person wrote in article The Atheist An atheist was taking a walk through the woods. What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7 foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out: "Oh my God!…" Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky: "You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don’t exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?" The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a Christian?" "Very well," said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together and bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord Amen." The Unauthorized Version In the beginning was the song, and behold it had both music and lyrics, and it was somewhat raunchy, and it was in the year nineteen ought four, and the song was named "The Preacher and the Bear," and it was spread upon piano rolls and often pressed upon records by cantor Arthur Collins and thus sent throughout the land, and every chorus ended with the refrain "Oh, Lawd, if you can’t help me, for goodness sakes don’tcha help that Bear!" and it was good. http://wiscasset.net/artcraft/rolls5.htm [Collins recorded "The Preacher and the Bear" soon after it was published in 1904. Normally credited to Joe Arzonia, the song was actually written by George Fairman (1881-1962) of Front Royal, Virginia. In 1955 Fairman wrote to Jim Walsh that in 1902 or 1903, shortly after he composed it, he sold for $250 all rights to the song to Arzonia . . . In the fortieth decade of the nineteenth century did Phil Harris, troubadour and leader of troubadours and bandsmen, sanitize the lyrics a jot and a tittle and send forth the song on simple flat discs of wax which whirled mightily and sent the sound to the waiting people, and the song did take the land by storm, and the people rejoiced and Preacher Harris did join the song to his hymn to the promised land, "That's What I Like About the South," and thus did he prosper, and it was good. [Somewhat cleaned up from the original 1904 version, with chords for pickin' and singin'] [Begin] [THE PREACHER AND THE BEAR As recorded by Phil Harris Writer: Arzonia (Joe Arizona) [Bb] Now a preacher went out walkin’ Was [Eb] on one Sunday [Bb] morn’ It was against his religion But he [C] took his gun a-[F] long He [Bb] shot himself some mighty fine quail And [Eb] one little "measly" [Bb] hare But [Eb] on his way [Bb] returnin’ home He met a [F] great big grizzly [Bb] bear; NARRATION: (In [Bb]) Well, the bear got down in the middle of the road On all fours like a great big toad And looked that preacher right square in the eye And the preacher looked at him and said: "Bye-bye." Started down the road and took out to run The bear right after that preacher did come Run and they run for about a mile Then they both sat down and rested awhile The preacher got up – started again The bear he started out with more vim They ran and they ran til he spotted a tree Said: "Up on the limb is the place for me." The bear got close – made a grab for him Preacher leaps up and he made the limb Pulled himself up and turns about Cast his eyes to the skies and [F] he did [Bb] shout; Refrain: "[Bb] Oh, Lawd, you delivered [Eb] Daniel from the lion’s [Bb] den Also delivered Jonah from the [C] belly of the whale and [F] then The [Bb] Hebrew children from the fiery furnace So the [Eb] good book do [Bb] declare Yes! [Eb] Lord, if you can’t [Bb] help me, For goodness [F] sake don’t help that [Bb] bear." NARRATION: Just about then the limb let go And the preacher came tumblin’ down Reached in his pocket, pulled his razor out Just before he hit the ground He hit the ground with an awful bang It was a terrible sight The preacher and the bear, with a razor in his hair Just a-cuttin’ left and right Well, they rolled around on the ground The preacher was up and then he was down The bear let out an awful moan It looked like the preacher was holdin’ his own "Lord, if I get out of here alive That Good Book I will abide I’ll never sin on Sabbath day And Sunday come, I’ll pray and pray." To the heavens, he did glance Said; "Lord, just gimme one more chance." Then his suspenders gave away And he knocked that bear ten feet away Then the preacher got up and made a bound To the tree where he’d be safe and sound Pulled himself up and turned about Cast his eyes to the skies and he did shout: Repeat Refrain: Note. http://www.bmi.com lists many authors for other versions. [End] http://www.cowboylyrics.com/tabs/misc/the-preacher-and-the-bear-3282…. But prophets and judges who knew not the song nor Preacher Harris fell upon the lyrics and they discerned that some of the words were of religious flavor, and so they did greatly sanitize the already sanitized lyrics, and lo! they did transform it into a parable for the spreading of their special knowledge of God’s way with preachers and bears, and it was not so good as the original versions had been, for they laughed not with God for the goodness of his world and for his giving to his special people the wisdom and humor he meant them to have.  But God laughed, and it was good.

Thanks for sharing :-) Don

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love, in Christ’s holy name. May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will escape satan’s rule and torment of your soul after you die. Please do consider the following before it is too late: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew — Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems to me I heard somewhere that Christian Person wrote in The Atheist An atheist was taking a walk through the woods. What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7 foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out: "Oh my God!…" Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky: "You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don’t exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?" The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a Christian?" "Very well," said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together and bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord Amen." The Unauthorized Version In the beginning was the song, and behold it had both music and lyrics, and it was somewhat raunchy, and it was in the year nineteen ought four, and the song was named "The Preacher and the Bear," and it was spread upon piano rolls and often pressed upon records by cantor Arthur Collins and thus sent throughout the land, and every chorus ended with the refrain "Oh, Lawd, if you can’t help me, for goodness sakes don’tcha help that Bear!" and it was good. http://wiscasset.net/artcraft/rolls5.htm [Collins recorded "The Preacher and the Bear" soon after it was published in 1904. Normally credited to Joe Arzonia, the song was actually written by George Fairman (1881-1962) of Front Royal, Virginia. In 1955 Fairman wrote to Jim Walsh that in 1902 or 1903, shortly after he composed it, he sold for $250 all rights to the song to Arzonia . . . In the fortieth decade of the nineteenth century did Phil Harris, troubadour and leader of troubadours and bandsmen, sanitize the lyrics a jot and a tittle and send forth the song on simple flat discs of wax which whirled mightily and sent the sound to the waiting people, and the song did take the land by storm, and the people rejoiced and Preacher Harris did join the song to his hymn to the promised land, "That's What I Like About the South," and thus did he prosper, and it was good. [Somewhat cleaned up from the original 1904 version, with chords for pickin' and singin'] [Begin] [THE PREACHER AND THE BEAR As recorded by Phil Harris Writer: Arzonia (Joe Arizona) [Bb] Now a preacher went out walkin’ Was [Eb] on one Sunday [Bb] morn’ It was against his religion But he [C] took his gun a-[F] long He [Bb] shot himself some mighty fine quail And [Eb] one little "measly" [Bb] hare But [Eb] on his way [Bb] returnin’ home He met a [F] great big grizzly [Bb] bear; NARRATION: (In [Bb]) Well, the bear got down in the middle of the road On all fours like a great big toad And looked that preacher right square in the eye And the preacher looked at him and said: "Bye-bye." Started down the road and took out to run The bear right after that preacher did come Run and they run for about a mile Then they both sat down and rested awhile The preacher got up – started again The bear he started out with more vim They ran and they ran til he spotted a tree Said: "Up on the limb is the place for me." The bear got close – made a grab for him Preacher leaps up and he made the limb Pulled himself up and turns about Cast his eyes to the skies and [F] he did [Bb] shout; Refrain: "[Bb] Oh, Lawd, you delivered [Eb] Daniel from the lion’s [Bb] den Also delivered Jonah from the [C] belly of the whale and [F] then The [Bb] Hebrew children from the fiery furnace So the [Eb] good book do [Bb] declare Yes! [Eb] Lord, if you can’t [Bb] help me, For goodness [F] sake don’t help that [Bb] bear." NARRATION: Just about then the limb let go And the preacher came tumblin’ down Reached in his pocket, pulled his razor out Just before he hit the ground He hit the ground with an awful bang It was a terrible sight The preacher and the bear, with a razor in his hair Just a-cuttin’ left and right Well, they rolled around on the ground The preacher was up and then he was down The bear let out an awful moan It looked like the preacher was holdin’ his own "Lord, if I get out of here alive That Good Book I will abide I’ll never sin on Sabbath day And Sunday come, I’ll pray and pray." To the heavens, he did glance Said; "Lord, just gimme one more chance." Then his suspenders gave away And he knocked that bear ten feet away Then the preacher got up and made a bound To the tree where he’d be safe and sound Pulled himself up and turned about Cast his eyes to the skies and he did shout: Repeat Refrain: Note. http://www.bmi.com lists many authors for other versions. [End] http://www.cowboylyrics.com/tabs/misc/the-preacher-and-the-bear-3282…. But prophets and judges who knew not the song nor Preacher Harris fell upon the lyrics and they discerned that some of the words were of religious flavor, and so they did greatly sanitize the already sanitized lyrics, and lo! they did transform it into a parable for the spreading of their special knowledge of God’s way with preachers and bears, and it was not so good as the original versions had been, for they laughed not with God for the goodness of his world and for his giving to his special people the wisdom and humor he meant them to have.  But God laughed, and it was good. Thanks for sharing :-) Don You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love, in Christ’s holy name. May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will escape satan’s rule and torment of your soul after you die. Please do consider the following before it is too late: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew

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 Respectfully, Christian Person, you will never succeed in your message with goofy homilies like this.

It would seem that Christian Person has successfully drawn you out. There is infinitely more at stake in this culture war than any uniquely religious view of mankind.

Why do you see the light of truth as a weapon of war? The battle we face transcends all of this nonsense to the extent we fail to accept that pure evil exists apart from any purely religious definition of what constitutes evil.

Christ would have you refrain from judging others. Evil exists or it does not, and unless mankind, as an organism if you will, comes to some sort of consensus on the matter, all is for naught.

We are all sinners, Cleopatra. The "Golden Rule," while common to most of the world’s religions, is in direct conflict with man’s basic nature. It’s on this level that your message fails, for the instinct to survive is far stronger than our inclination toward the purely spiritual.

Because of Adam, we will all die.  Because of Christ, there is the option of eternal life with our heavenly Father who created everything.  This message should appeal to your instinct to survive, so why hasn’t it? This culture war does not involve religious people and non-religious people, but rather truly evil people and fundamentally good people.

Again, we are all sinners and fall short of perfection.  There is no war except that which is in each individual’s heart and mind to decide on whether or not to accept Christ as Lord and Savior. It’s been ever thus, sir, for long before any organized religions made their influence felt on mankind, we existed as a species for untold millennia. What, then, is Christ’s message, or Moses’ message for that matter, to these ancient people? Do they simply perish for lack of grace or affiliation with organized religions?

Why trouble yourself with the fate of the dead when you have the option of accepting eternal life with the God of the living ? No, sir, they don’t, for the God of this universe implanted in our heart of hearts good and evil, and we all know it when we see it and when we inflict it upon others.

Actually, we disobeyed the God of this universe when we stole the knowledge of good and evil after being explicitly told that this knowledge was off-limits. Our battle is not a religious one, sir, but one against unimaginably evil people.

Our battle is an internal one as we decide whether to repent and accept the sacrifice that His Son made on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or continue to be disobedient as our forefathers back to Adam have been. Thank you for reading this.

You are welcome.  All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-) Cleopatra

You will be in my prayers, dear Cleopatra whom I love, in Christ’s holy name. May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will escape satan’s rule and torment of your soul after you die. Please do consider the following before it is too late: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew — Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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What a cute little fairy tale.  Thanks for sharing.

Welcome. We *give* freely. How about offering *your* weight tracking program, at no charge, to anyone who reads Usenet. Chung even gave the 2PDiet away to the Governor of Georgia, no fee attached. Never has charged a soul and neither have I. Whaddya say, GG?

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What a cute little fairy tale.  Thanks for sharing. Welcome. We *give* freely. How about offering *your* weight tracking program, at no charge, to anyone who reads Usenet. Chung even gave the 2PDiet away to the Governor of Georgia, no fee attached. Never has charged a soul and neither have I. Whaddya say, GG?

Sorry, dear MU.  Although I do donate quite a bit of my time and software development talents to various non-profit organizations, my WeightWare program ( http://www.WeightWare.com ) is one of my sources of income.  As such, I cannot afford to give it away for free. Do you have a job?  If so, do you give away your time for free? GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary

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Hi Chung: They really know not what they do.

Do you know what you do?  You turn more people away from Jesus than towards Him. John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again,

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