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Saturday part 1.
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Cute 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tracey > "How did the Wicked Witch of the West > take a bath?" > –Solomon Short–
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>Cute >> Tracey >> "How did the Wicked Witch of the West >> take a bath?"
Thanks! I got four books full of ‘em! I’m changing pretty regularly right now! — Tracey "How did the Wicked Witch of the West take a bath?" –Solomon Short–
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I heard she got dry-cleaned! Dawn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ELD wrote in message <380367B4.8E080…@vaxxine.com>… >Cute >> Tracey >> "How did the Wicked Witch of the West >> take a bath?" >> –Solomon Short–
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>While I agree it is not always a good thing to be naked >in front of kids, I think SK really needed some reassurance that he is >normal, and everything is in the right place.
Well, it all depends, I guess. I’m not a nudist, but I can see where being a nudist probably wouldn’t be a horrible thing for kids. Having said that <grin>, there have been plenty of times when my kids have seen me naked and one really *horrible* time when my youngest SS saw me naked (and sitting on the toilet while 9 months pregnant. I’m sure THAT one still gives him nightmares!!!!) It’s basically how it’s handled, I guess. Running screaming and yelling is probably NOT that way. >I just want him to lay down some decent rules for acceptable >behaviour for *all* of us, and for us to all stick by them.
Don’t hold your breath on this one, Mel. Maybe I’m being pessimistic, but trying to ‘lay down rules’ for someone else rarely works unless that other person wants the relationship to be a good, amicable, working relationship, too. Also, it would kind of stick in *my* craw if someone came up to me and said ‘Okay, this is how I expect *you* to act’ without getting my input on it. Have I ever mentioned that I’m very much a ‘Oh, you want me to do THAT? Well, I think I’ll do THIS instead!’ type of person? >I’m sick of BM lying to us about things just to get her own way >- and lying about what the counsellor said really stinks.
But, Mel, you can’t *make* her stop lying. About the best you can do is get your information from the counselor your- self and let her know that you got the ‘real’ story. It’s kind of weird, but even then some people will insist on putting their own spin on things. Maybe if she understands that you’re not going to take her word on things she’ll straighten up and give you the truth. But, there’s also the possibility that she’s not lying *as far as she knows.* I remember when DH and I were going through counseling and we would come out and start discussing what had happened and sometimes it seemed like we had been talking to two different people. I know that lots of times I looked at him and thought ‘Who were *you* listening to? I didn’t hear that!’ and I’m sure he thought the same. — Tracey "How did the Wicked Witch of the West take a bath?" –Solomon Short–
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Mel Well, I haven’t seen many replies to your weekend posts. And I’m not *real* sure what I’m going to say about them. I hope that you all are doing well this week and that things haven’t gotten too nasty between you two and BM. I also hope that your SS gets checked out for JD (juvenile dia- betes) soon. It sounds as if he should to ease your mind on it, if nothing else. The part about ‘dick’ seems to be a young kid’s misin- terpretation of something that is said to me. Your BM is perfectly correct, IMO, that ‘dick’ is a rude word and it seems to me that your SS made the leap of logic that since a word for it is rude, then the item itself is. As far as your controversial parts, others might think so, but not me. Getting kids to understand that the things they do to others hurts them is a big thing and to turn it around and say ‘How would *you* feel if someone did it to you?’ is the way I’ve always done it. And as far as your SO playing ’show and tell’, it’s not a bad thing, IMO, especially with the situation as it is. I hope that your SO uses his anger in a constructive way and not, as you said, to blast her. It sounds as if, in the long run, things might be getting better for you all. Just don’t be put off if, in the short term, they seem tumultuous. — Tracey "The Constitution of the United States guarantees every individual the right to make a damn fool of himself–in public or private, however he chooses." –Solomon Short–
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On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:47:13 GMT, Tracey <rbranc…@mediaone.net> wrote: >Mel >Well, I haven’t seen many replies to your weekend posts.
Neither have I 
Still, everyone is probably very busy, and it was an awful lot to read, I guess.. Thank YOU for replying! >And I’m not *real* sure what I’m going to say about them. >I hope that you all are doing well this week and that things >haven’t gotten too nasty between you two and BM. I also >hope that your SS gets checked out for JD (juvenile dia- >betes) soon. It sounds as if he should to ease your mind >on it, if nothing else.
Have not heard a peep out of BM at all.. I was expecting her to call me when SO was at work, but it hasn’t happened. I’ve got very mixed feelings about the whole thing.. I don’t believe her when she says that she likes me, because I am not stupid – she thinks I am! >The part about ‘dick’ seems to be a young kid’s misin- >terpretation of something that is said to me. Your BM >is perfectly correct, IMO, that ‘dick’ is a rude word >and it seems to me that your SS made the leap of logic >that since a word for it is rude, then the item itself is.
Sure, dick is a rude word. I can see how he made the connection. I do wish that BM would talk to SK about his penis instead of leaving it all to SO. I think it sends the wrong message to SK. I’ve felt all along that SK had a problem with his privates, and I’ve done all I can to help him see that they are not dirty, nasty or filthy. Until that message comes through loud and clear from his own mother, I don’t think we will get far. >As far as your controversial parts, others might think >so, but not me. Getting kids to understand that the >things they do to others hurts them is a big thing and >to turn it around and say ‘How would *you* feel if >someone did it to you?’ is the way I’ve always done >it.
It was a pretty tough thing for SO to do.. and I am really proud of him.. Whenever you’re faced with a crying, screaming kid, it is really easy to back down and just let things go, and I think that SO realises now that you just can’t keep sweeping things under the carpet in the hope that someone else will clean up the mess eventually. > And as far as your SO playing ’show and tell’, it’s >not a bad thing, IMO, especially with the situation as >it is.
I don’t think it is either.. SK lives in a house where nobody walks around naked. While I agree it is not always a good thing to be naked in front of kids, I think SK really needed some reassurance that he is normal, and everything is in the right place. I’ve said to SO that perhaps it is not a bad idea for him to leave the door open when he is drying himself off after a shower – what do you think? I’m certainly not going to strip off and wander about the house, but SO is his father. At my house when I was growing up, my dad would often "streak" from the shower to the bedroom – never harmed me in any way, and maybe that is what SO needs to do. Either that, or we become nudists and head off for the nearest nudist camp with SK in tow! >I hope that your SO uses his anger in a constructive >way and not, as you said, to blast her. It sounds as >if, in the long run, things might be getting better for you >all. Just don’t be put off if, in the short term, they seem >tumultuous.
Me too.. while all this "being amicable" has been a severely trying thing for me, its at least meant no fighting.. I don’t want him to be blasting her either.. I just want him to lay down some decent rules for acceptable behaviour for *all* of us, and for us to all stick by them. I’m sick of BM lying to us about things just to get her own way – and lying about what the counsellor said really stinks. Mel >Tracey >"The Constitution of the United States >guarantees every individual the right to >make a damn fool of himself–in public or >private, however he chooses." > –Solomon Short–
————————————————— Melissa Torresan sm…@crosswinds.net —————————————————
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On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:53:28 GMT, Marlene <marlyc…@my-deja.com> wrote: >Mel, >If it turns out that SS is diabetic, I say good catch on your part. I >hope for his sake that he is not, but if he is then the sooner he is >treated the better and I hope BM and SO follow through with a doctor >visit. My older sister was diabetic and sadly she passed away three >years ago. It is not at all weird that you would recognize the smell. >You are very in tune with things going on with SK and he is lucky to >have you in his life. >I read part 2 also, and am waiting for part 3 to see what happened. >Marlene
I hope he is not, too, because I know how *much* harder it made growing up for my best friend. She got it at age 7 – SK is 7 in February. She started out with two needles a day, and is now up to four. She spent a lot of time in hospital because they couldn’t get her BSL’s stable – I’d say a good two months out of every year she was there. I could walk to the hospital, and I spent almost every spare waking moment there with her. My parents had a workmate who passed away in her 40’s with it, and I never told best friend because I was too scared it might happen to her. If he has got it, it would explain a lot to me.. but I hope I am wrong. Best friend went into a diabetic coma at a sleepover once, and when I woke up, she was choking and biting on her tounge. I was terrified.. and if it happened to SK, I would at least know what to do, but I’d be shitscared all the same.. Mel
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Mel, If it turns out that SS is diabetic, I say good catch on your part. I hope for his sake that he is not, but if he is then the sooner he is treated the better and I hope BM and SO follow through with a doctor visit. My older sister was diabetic and sadly she passed away three years ago. It is not at all weird that you would recognize the smell. You are very in tune with things going on with SK and he is lucky to have you in his life. I read part 2 also, and am waiting for part 3 to see what happened. Marlene torresa…@hotmail.com (Melissa Torresan) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone.. > Saturday morning, I get up and go to the loo <as you do> and when I > got in there, I could smell this really familiar smell.. and as I am > sitting there, it comes to me.. my best friend was a diabetic.. this > is going to sound weird, I know, but after 12 or so years of going to > the loo after her, you’d know that smell anywhere.. and it’s like a > light switch goes on in my head.. SK has been drinking a lot more than > he used to, and going to the loo more often, he is having problems > with his feet, he lost a fair bit of weight a while ago although he’s > put some of it back on since.. plus, he’s just walked out of the loo > as I walked in. So I ask him a few questions at breakfast time, and > his answers make the hair stand on the back of my neck. Now I could be > wrong, I’ll admit that, but I think it’s worth checking out. I say > that to SO, and he says he will suggest it to BM. I ask SK to *not* > flush the next time he goes loo, that way I can have another smell and > make sure I am not just losing my marbles, which he does, and it > *does* smell like that again! > Everything was fine until the playstation tantrum, which I have > already covered, so I’ll go on to what happened next. Just before > dinner, BM calls. She says to SO "I’ll come and pick SK up tomorrow at > 1 and I’ll take him to the football.." SO tells her no way, and that > he’d given her plenty of options during the week to enable her to take > him to the football, and that time is his time, and we will not be > here tomorrow at 1 because we have already made plans. She then says > "Let me speak to SK" so SO hands the phone over, and she asks him how > his weekend is going and if he’s having a good time etc and then she > says "Are your wees still burning?" > This is the first we have heard of wees burning. She did not say > anything at pick up. She did not say anything when she called an hour > after pick up. She did not mention it to SO when she called this time > until *after* she had spoken to SK. We could hear every word she said > to SK – you can hear her miles away. SO then mentions to her that > perhaps SK might have diabetes.. she asks him why he thinks that, and > because he cannot remember what I told him, he asks me. I repeat all > the reasons I thought he might have it and she heard me, and she says > "Well, I doubt it could be diabetes, but I was going to take him to > the doctor on Tuesday anyway, and I’ll mention it to him" > SO mentions that the new shoes <the $80 Nikes> seem to be causing > problems with SK’s feet, and she got really sarcastic then.. saying > "Well I wear them, and I don’t have any problems, they’re the best > that money can buy, and I don’t think I should be cheap when it comes > to SK’s feet" and SO says "Well they might be expensive, but they > don’t fit" BM "Well, I’ll take them back to the shop where I bought > them, then, and get them to replace them" – he’s had them over two > weeks! As IF! > By now, we are both absolutely fuming. All this could have been > avoided so simply.. IF BM put the cream on SK like she is supposed to > do, she would have noticed the callouses and the fungal infections and > realised something was wrong. One of the reasons for the wee burning > could be another infection he has got because he isn’t cleaning his > privates properly at BM’s.. IF she supervised, it may never have > happened. If that is the reason, this will be the third infection he > has got from not cleaning it properly. > What is more, how dare she call us and tell us she will pick SK up for > the football. If you read my previous post about all that, you know we > offered her quite a few options so that she could take him, and she > refused them all, giving all kinds of excuses why we could not have > any extra time with SK this weekend. > What is the worst thing of all, is BM did not say anything to us about > the wees burning. I have no mind reading abilities, and neither does > SO. Apparently, he had only just started complaining about it on > Friday, and she did not have time to do anything about it, so instead > of telling us about it, she chose to say nothing. We could have gone > to the chemist and got any one of the over the counter powder drinks > that you can have to fix that kind of problem. We could have organised > a Saturday morning appointment to get it checked out. But no.. instead > SK puts up with burning wees all weekend – SHE told him not to SAY > anything to us about it!!!!! We found that out later Saturday night > when we had a long talk with SK about a lot of things.. but thats for > part 2.. > I’ve divided them because otherwise they would be way long.. > Mel
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Hi everyone.. Saturday morning, I get up and go to the loo <as you do> and when I got in there, I could smell this really familiar smell.. and as I am sitting there, it comes to me.. my best friend was a diabetic.. this is going to sound weird, I know, but after 12 or so years of going to the loo after her, you’d know that smell anywhere.. and it’s like a light switch goes on in my head.. SK has been drinking a lot more than he used to, and going to the loo more often, he is having problems with his feet, he lost a fair bit of weight a while ago although he’s put some of it back on since.. plus, he’s just walked out of the loo as I walked in. So I ask him a few questions at breakfast time, and his answers make the hair stand on the back of my neck. Now I could be wrong, I’ll admit that, but I think it’s worth checking out. I say that to SO, and he says he will suggest it to BM. I ask SK to *not* flush the next time he goes loo, that way I can have another smell and make sure I am not just losing my marbles, which he does, and it *does* smell like that again! Everything was fine until the playstation tantrum, which I have already covered, so I’ll go on to what happened next. Just before dinner, BM calls. She says to SO "I’ll come and pick SK up tomorrow at 1 and I’ll take him to the football.." SO tells her no way, and that he’d given her plenty of options during the week to enable her to take him to the football, and that time is his time, and we will not be here tomorrow at 1 because we have already made plans. She then says "Let me speak to SK" so SO hands the phone over, and she asks him how his weekend is going and if he’s having a good time etc and then she says "Are your wees still burning?" This is the first we have heard of wees burning. She did not say anything at pick up. She did not say anything when she called an hour after pick up. She did not mention it to SO when she called this time until *after* she had spoken to SK. We could hear every word she said to SK – you can hear her miles away. SO then mentions to her that perhaps SK might have diabetes.. she asks him why he thinks that, and because he cannot remember what I told him, he asks me. I repeat all the reasons I thought he might have it and she heard me, and she says "Well, I doubt it could be diabetes, but I was going to take him to the doctor on Tuesday anyway, and I’ll mention it to him" SO mentions that the new shoes <the $80 Nikes> seem to be causing problems with SK’s feet, and she got really sarcastic then.. saying "Well I wear them, and I don’t have any problems, they’re the best that money can buy, and I don’t think I should be cheap when it comes to SK’s feet" and SO says "Well they might be expensive, but they don’t fit" BM "Well, I’ll take them back to the shop where I bought them, then, and get them to replace them" – he’s had them over two weeks! As IF! By now, we are both absolutely fuming. All this could have been avoided so simply.. IF BM put the cream on SK like she is supposed to do, she would have noticed the callouses and the fungal infections and realised something was wrong. One of the reasons for the wee burning could be another infection he has got because he isn’t cleaning his privates properly at BM’s.. IF she supervised, it may never have happened. If that is the reason, this will be the third infection he has got from not cleaning it properly. What is more, how dare she call us and tell us she will pick SK up for the football. If you read my previous post about all that, you know we offered her quite a few options so that she could take him, and she refused them all, giving all kinds of excuses why we could not have any extra time with SK this weekend. What is the worst thing of all, is BM did not say anything to us about the wees burning. I have no mind reading abilities, and neither does SO. Apparently, he had only just started complaining about it on Friday, and she did not have time to do anything about it, so instead of telling us about it, she chose to say nothing. We could have gone to the chemist and got any one of the over the counter powder drinks that you can have to fix that kind of problem. We could have organised a Saturday morning appointment to get it checked out. But no.. instead SK puts up with burning wees all weekend – SHE told him not to SAY anything to us about it!!!!! We found that out later Saturday night when we had a long talk with SK about a lot of things.. but thats for part 2.. I’ve divided them because otherwise they would be way long.. Mel