Diabetes Talking

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Jet, It’s what I’ve taken for the past 3 years. On maintenance, I don’t always take 5-HTP, and being someone who didn’t have an overwhelming need for fen I don’t know that personally I am a great example.

I could not handle phen by itself. Like with other things, you need to try it out and see how you like it. Phen/5-HTP is a lot closer to phen/fen than ECA stack.

ECA helped me keep my weight off, but it didn’t do anything about the almost constant desire to eat. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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What is the 5 htp?

Hydroxytryptophan. A precursor to serotonin. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Keep us posted.  I have used 5 htp but it was pricey so I stopped. K in Cali

You can get 30 50mg capsules at WalMart for $10. — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry. Dose?

15 mg time release generic phen. 50-100 mg 5 HTP J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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:Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of :weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as :keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry. : :I’m not sure if I will stick with this combo, or switch back to stacking :after a month or so. : :J Keep us posted.  I have used 5 htp but it was pricey so I stopped. K in Cali :– :KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium : :email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Jet, I have read all the post on Phen and 5 HTP. I am still really confused. I know nothing is working for me.  Phen phen did though. Is the Phen part from a doctor.  Or is it like at a GNC? And still not sure what  HTP is. Any help would be appreciated. Alli – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry. Dose? 15 mg time release generic phen. 50-100 mg 5 HTP J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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What is generic phen and is it still prescription?

Generic phen is phen not sold under a brand name, sadly, it is still prescription. Do you take the 5-HTP with meals or before and how many times a day?

I only take the combo once day, either before breakfast, or about an hour after. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Jet, I have read all the post on Phen and 5 HTP. I am still really confused. I know nothing is working for me.  Phen phen did though. Is the Phen part from a doctor.  Or is it like at a GNC? And still not sure what  HTP is.

Phen comes from a doctor. It is the phen part of fen/phen. 5 HTP is Hydroxytryptophan, a percursor of serotonin. You can find it in any healht food store, many drug stores, and even Walmart. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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What is generic phen and is it still prescription? Do you take the 5-HTP with meals or before and how many times a day?Hope – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jet, It’s what I’ve taken for the past 3 years. On maintenance, I don’t always take 5-HTP, and being someone who didn’t have an overwhelming need for fen I don’t know that personally I am a great example. I could not handle phen by itself. Like with other things, you need to try it out and see how you like it. Phen/5-HTP is a lot closer to phen/fen than ECA stack. ECA helped me keep my weight off, but it didn’t do anything about the almost constant desire to eat. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry.

Jet, It’s what I’ve taken for the past 3 years. On maintenance, I don’t always take 5-HTP, and being someone who didn’t have an overwhelming need for fen I don’t know that personally I am a great example. But there are studies showing that 5-HTP curbs hunger and reduces carbohydrate cravings. The studies were short term and used extremely large amounts (900 mg). Like with other things, you need to try it out and see how you like it. Phen/5-HTP is a lot closer to phen/fen than ECA stack. Barbara Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS http://www.obesity-news.com

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Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry.

Dose? — Steve Dyer

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What is the 5 htp? Alli – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry. I’m not sure if I will stick with this combo, or switch back to stacking after a month or so. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Is anyone on this? I have been experimenting with it for a couple of weeks, and it is the closest thing to fen/phen I have found, as far as keeping food out of your mind when you are not hungry. I’m not sure if I will stick with this combo, or switch back to stacking after a month or so. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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DON’T YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME. That is the one hope that I have; that I can, through changing my WOE and improving my physique, wean myself off of the fscking blood pressure medication.  And now you tell me that my BP is doomed to go up, no matter what I do.

As always, YMMV. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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I have successfully controlled my BP, and YOU CAN do it too!!!!   Some are able to use diet pills to form new, healthier habits.  You learn when to eat, how much to eat, what to eat & so on.   You can have the body you desire (inside & out).   Positve thoughts create positive results!!!

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jet, you will never get an argument from me regarding the prejudice regarding obesity in our society! READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE RECOVERY http://www.winternet.com/~terrym/sobriety.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – dear jet, why would your doctor prescribe PHEN for you, if you are not obese? He realizes to be effective, the diet meds need to be used long term. My thyroid tests came back normal, and he still wrote me a scrip for Synthroid. After all, if I stop taking Synthroid, my hormone levels will dip back to below normal. Phen has got to be one of the most benign drugs I can think of. Doctors regularly hand out penicillin, which kills 40 times of a milllion, for conditions it can’t even help. But nobody asks why doctors prescribe penicillin for colds. It’s a reflection of the moralistic view of weight in our society. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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He realizes to be effective, the diet meds need to be used long term. My thyroid tests came back normal, and he still wrote me a scrip for Synthroid. After all, if I stop taking Synthroid, my hormone levels will dip back to below normal.

 My thyroid test continuously come back normal. Yet, I exercise eat right and do ALL the right things. I took Redux for nine months and lost weight effortlessly. Phen alone didn’t do anything for me. As I said my Thyroid has always been normal but on the low end of the "normal" range. My Dr. wont even consider putting my on Synthroid! What type of Dr. are you seeing that is willing to look past test results? Sounds like I should go find a Dr. who is willing to look at the whole picture of what I am doing and have done to lose weight to get a clue as to help me. http://members.aol.com/nikkiad320/page/index.htm

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dear jet, why would your doctor prescribe PHEN for you, if you are not obese?

He realizes to be effective, the diet meds need to be used long term. My thyroid tests came back normal, and he still wrote me a scrip for Synthroid. After all, if I stop taking Synthroid, my hormone levels will dip back to below normal. Phen has got to be one of the most benign drugs I can think of. Doctors regularly hand out penicillin, which kills 40 times of a milllion, for conditions it can’t even help. But nobody asks why doctors prescribe penicillin for colds. It’s a reflection of the moralistic view of weight in our society. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Thanks for the response, Barbara.  I never realized doctors would continue prescribing diet drugs *after* weight loss.

IMHO, stopping diet meds after weight loss is like stopping blood pressure meds after you pressure is under control. Your pressure is sure to go up. Fortunately, doctors don’t see blood pressure as a moral issue. They won’t say, "I’ll let you use the medication for 3 months…but after that you’ll just have to learn to eat less salt and relax." J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Jet, Not to be obnoxious, but I’m also curious – how do you get a doctor to prescribe prescription Phen when you’re not obese.  For Pete’s sake, you’re a size 3!

My doctor realizes that to be effective, the medication needs to be used long term. So, if I put on even 5 lbs, he is willing to write me a scrip. He figures better to write it then then wait unitl I’ve got 50 lbs to lose. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Also schrieb K in Mtl: Thanks for the response, Barbara.  I never realized doctors would continue prescribing diet drugs *after* weight loss.  I can see how everyone’s personal experiences differ.  My weight has never been really out of control, and is fairly easily  regulated with good old diet and exercise, so I’ve never gone the rx meds route.  Thanks for filling me in on something I must plead complete ignorance to.

You’re not ignorant of it; you just weren’t thinking outside the box. After all, we don’t come "off" a diet when we’re done losing our weight, or the weight could come right back. You were just partitioning the rx side of things into something that was different from WOEs. They are different songs, but we use the same notes to play the song. —  Stack FAQ at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/4999/stackfaq.htm  349/342/wherever as the King of Tuna Drink up, Socrates, it’s all natural.                    

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Jet, Not to be obnoxious, but I’m also curious – how do you get a doctor to prescribe prescription Phen when you’re not obese.  For Pete’s sake, you’re a size 3!

And I’m a size 6, but I’d be a size 16 and 90 pounds heavier without medication. The medical community has finally accepted the fact that obesity is a chronic condition like hypertension or diabetes. So if you take medication to lose weight and you stop taking it, the weight returns. This is why a doctor would prescribe anti-obesity medications to a person who is small. My doctor has prescribed phentermine to me for the past three years. No questions. He knows how hard it is for me to keep my weight off. It’s not like he can’t remember three years back when I weighed so much I couldn’t bend over to tie my shoes. And if I went to a new doctor, I have enough pictures for "proof". Barbara Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS http://www.obesity-news.com

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Sorry K, I was not totally awake. I just noticed that myself. Sorry. Allison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was talking to Jet (see below). — K in Mtl "Thinking is easy, being wise is difficult, and being all-knowing is an exercise in futility." Good Morning Thanks for the information about phen an 5htp And im not sure who you were talking to about size 3,  I have not been a size 3 in 10 years or more. I weight 135 to 140. I am short so I should weight 110. If you were wondering. Anyway thanks, Allison Jet, Not to be obnoxious, but I’m also curious – how do you get a doctor to prescribe prescription Phen when you’re not obese.  For Pete’s sake, you’re a size 3! — K in Mtl "Thinking is easy, being wise is difficult, and being all-knowing is an exercise in futility." dear jet, why would your doctor prescribe PHEN for you, if you are not obese? READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE RECOVERY http://www.winternet.com/~terrym/sobriety.html Jet, I have read all the post on Phen and 5 HTP. I am still really confused. I know nothing is working for me.  Phen phen did though. Is the Phen part from a doctor.  Or is it like at a GNC? And still not sure what  HTP is. Phen comes from a doctor. It is the phen part of fen/phen. 5 HTP is Hydroxytryptophan, a percursor of serotonin. You can find it in any healht food store, many drug stores, and even Walmart. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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Good Morning Thanks for the information about phen an 5htp And im not sure who you were talking to about size 3,  I have not been a size 3 in 10 years or more. I weight 135 to 140. I am short so I should weight 110. If you were wondering. Anyway thanks, Allison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jet, Not to be obnoxious, but I’m also curious – how do you get a doctor to prescribe prescription Phen when you’re not obese.  For Pete’s sake, you’re a size 3! — K in Mtl "Thinking is easy, being wise is difficult, and being all-knowing is an exercise in futility." dear jet, why would your doctor prescribe PHEN for you, if you are not obese? READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE RECOVERY http://www.winternet.com/~terrym/sobriety.html Jet, I have read all the post on Phen and 5 HTP. I am still really confused. I know nothing is working for me.  Phen phen did though. Is the Phen part from a doctor.  Or is it like at a GNC? And still not sure what  HTP is. Phen comes from a doctor. It is the phen part of fen/phen. 5 HTP is Hydroxytryptophan, a percursor of serotonin. You can find it in any healht food store, many drug stores, and even Walmart. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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dear jet, why would your doctor prescribe PHEN for you, if you are not obese? READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE     RECOVERY http://www.winternet.com/~terrym/sobriety.html         – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jet, I have read all the post on Phen and 5 HTP. I am still really confused. I know nothing is working for me.  Phen phen did though. Is the Phen part from a doctor.  Or is it like at a GNC? And still not sure what  HTP is. Phen comes from a doctor. It is the phen part of fen/phen. 5 HTP is Hydroxytryptophan, a percursor of serotonin. You can find it in any healht food store, many drug stores, and even Walmart. J — KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net

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