Diabetes Talking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in (…) … and Dr. Chung’s office… and in the homes of more than 625,550 people who have had more than 5 years experience with the 2PD-OMER Approach… With this much experience, I am surprised you haven’t published your diet yet. The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Is it the recent addition of the supposed 32-oz omer that changed it? No.  It never fit the definition of diet from the outset. I showed your own words describing it as a diet.

In truth, referencing something is not the same as describing it. That’s good enough for rational people.

By your own measure, therefore, you are not rational, dear Don: (1) You have read my description of the salvation that the Lord has offered to you and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. (2) You have read my description of the more than 5 year experiences of more than 625,550 people concerning the 2PD-OMER Approach and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. [Begin] Here is the proof.

Yes, you show and I affirm that I have referenced the 2PD Approach as the two pound diet (shortened for the 2 Pound Diet Approach).  However, in truth, the 2PD Approach was never a diet from the outset. So far hundreds have informed me that they are finding success with the two pound diet.  None report failure and none report nutritional deficiencies. [End] It was not yet hundreds of thousands of satisfied users, I presume. Actually, it was but I was not prepared to publicly write that there were that many. Actually the incredible numbers are quite recent; there would have been no reason for you not to publish them earlier if they existed.

The Lord has His reasons.  It remains my choice to obey Him. In fact it appears you have published the numbers often in the recent past though they remain incredible.

"Truth is beyond belief for the untruthful." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But the change from "diet" to "approach" must not have depended on the omer, since the omer was still missing in  February, 2004: [Begin] This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at . . . . [End] That arouses my curiosity; how could those 625,550 people have been on the 2PD-omer diet for five years when the omer stipulation was just added recently, perhaps earlier this year? Renaming the 2PD Approach to the 2PD-OMER Approach did not change the method. The first Google hit on that key is February 13, 2005.  Were the subjects on a different diet, or does the addition of  "omer" make absolutely no difference except some supposed religious support for the diet and its author? So your answer is that adding "omer" to the name made absolutely no difference

Glorifying God makes a difference. The addition of OMER to the name is to acknowledge that the source of the Original Method of Eating Reduction comes from God. Except for some supposed religious support for the diet and its author.

The 2PD-OMER Approach and its author are to God’s credit.  The glory is all His. And how many were in your control group? You will have to wait for the details like everyone else.  Sorry. I don’t expect them in the lifetimes of anyone in this newsgroup.

"All **will** be revealed to those who choose to spend eternity with the Lord." http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA About the truth: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear Don, whom I love, in Lord Christ’s holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here’s how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet  Indeed, it is truly the Messiah Who has vanquished you, dear Don. "Men (and women) can’t win arguments…  The truth **wins** arguments." Thankfully, Lord Jesus Christ is the way, **the truth**, and the life. Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these medical newsgroups http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew — Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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Jeff says: << Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal.     So far, the closest he’s come to that was talking about it at a ladies

… and before the Governor of the State of Georgia: http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp … and before the Premier Women’s Heart Health Conference held in Atlanta: http://www.acius.net Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ’s holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here’s how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" type 2 diabetes thereby bringing this thread back on topic http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew — Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (…) By your own measure, therefore, you are not rational, dear Don: (1) You have read my description of the salvation that the Lord has offered to you and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. Perhaps he thinks that the Lord’s salvation is not an appropriate topic for a newsgroup dealing with cardiology, science and medicine. Escaping our mortality is actually an appropriate topic for cardiology, science and medicine.

Unless you can provide a testible hypothesis, it is not a proper topic for cardiology, medicine or science. Read Gould’s book, "Rock of Ages." (2) You have read my description of the more than 5 year experiences of more than 625,550 people concerning the 2PD-OMER Approach and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet. The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal. Your choice.  The Lord has given you free will per our earlier discussions.

And it is your free choice not to publish your "research". Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA About the truth: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff, whom I love, in Lord Christ’s holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here’s how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" type 2 diabetes thereby bringing this thread back on topic http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew — Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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(…) By your own measure, therefore, you are not rational, dear Don: (1) You have read my description of the salvation that the Lord has offered to you and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. Perhaps he thinks that the Lord’s salvation is not an appropriate topic for a newsgroup dealing with cardiology, science and medicine.

Escaping our mortality is actually an appropriate topic for cardiology, science and medicine. (2) You have read my description of the more than 5 year experiences of more than 625,550 people concerning the 2PD-OMER Approach and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal.

Your choice.  The Lord has given you free will per our earlier discussions. http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA About the truth: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff, whom I love, in Lord Christ’s holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here’s how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" type 2 diabetes thereby bringing this thread back on topic http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew — Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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Jeff says: << Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal.     So far, the closest he’s come to that was talking about it at a ladies

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(…) By your own measure, therefore, you are not rational, dear Don: (1) You have read my description of the salvation that the Lord has offered to you and yet this has not been "good enough" for you.

Perhaps he thinks that the Lord’s salvation is not an appropriate topic for a newsgroup dealing with cardiology, science and medicine. (2) You have read my description of the more than 5 year experiences of more than 625,550 people concerning the 2PD-OMER Approach and yet this has not been "good enough" for you.

Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal. Jeff

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and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: Jeff says: << Actually, I haven’t read your description of your diet. I are waiting for it to be published in a peer-reviewed journal.    So far, the closest he’s come to that was talking about it at a ladies

But that was admitted to after the fact so as to prevent anyone from contacting them directly and forwarding them copies of chung’s usenet trolling.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (…) By your own measure, therefore, you are not rational, dear Don: (1) You have read my description of the salvation that the Lord has offered to you and yet this has not been "good enough" for you. Perhaps he thinks that the Lord’s salvation is not an appropriate topic for a newsgroup dealing with cardiology, science and medicine. Escaping our mortality is actually an appropriate topic for cardiology, science and medicine. Unless you can provide a testible hypothesis, it is not a proper topic for cardiology, medicine or science.

That would be your opinion.   Thankfully, it is God who is in charge here and not you. At His service, Andrew — Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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