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I think that Mr. Shapiro would recommend a gallon of whole milk everyday also! — Robert Schuh "There can be only one!" Trane, Jimi, Bird and Jaco were gods!!

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I can sympathize. I have a foolish daughter-in-law who doesn’t know=20 anything about nutrition. I pass along info about over-weight children,= =20 and general info on nutrition. She is not very receptive because her=20 entire family eats poorly… mostly fast foods, candy, coke or pepsi,=20 etc., and they are all overweight. =20 I hope the situation for you and for me and others in this predicament ca= n=20 resolve itself, because we walk a thin line when it comes to being=20 considered interfering in-laws. =20 Good luck. Laurel Taylor

There were some book titles mentioned….now you know what to buy for=20 your daughter-in-law’s next birthday/Christmas present =3D=3D– Cynthia Smith "Man’s ‘progress’ is but a gradual discovery that his questions have no mea= ning." =09–Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry

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=20 My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. Joyce M. =20 =20 At the very least he is going to be a fat little bastard!!:-)

Fat, out of shape, sick, and possibly eventually diabetic…… =3D=3D– Cynthia Smith "Man’s ‘progress’ is but a gradual discovery that his questions have no mea= ning." =09–Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry

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Rob! What are you doing lurking in these parts? Get tired of all the BS over in MFW? Good to see your name again, my friend! Mike Maturen

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: My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in : cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and : very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the : health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. : Joyce M. I’ve heard that refined (granulated) white sugar is poisonous to the kidneys and should generally be avoided. This (sucrose) is the main sugar in cereal, cookies, candy, etc.. so he is definitely not consuming good foods.

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: I can sympathize. I have a foolish daughter-in-law who doesn’t know : anything about nutrition. I pass along info about over-weight children, : and general info on nutrition. Excuse me, but is she raising the kids alone or do you have a Nobel prize winning son lurking silently in the background while this "foolish" daughter-in-law puts up with your helpful advice? Talk to your son if you’re truly interested and stop blaming his wife.

LOL!!!! Good point. k

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Go to ‘Enter the Zone" by Barry Sears. Sugar level goes up, insulin goes up, drives sugar into cells, activity doesn’t happen, sugars converted into fats. 5 years old certainly not the time to be suffering from malnutrition. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. Joyce M.

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I believe there’s a reference to it in Linus Pauling’s book: How to Live Longer and Feel better. -Dave

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At the very least he is going to be a fat little bastard!!:-) — Robert Schuh "There can be only one!" Trane, Jimi, Bird and Jaco were gods!!

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// I’m also wondering if some people are just predisposed to it and if they eat lots of sugar, this happens, whereas others eat like that all their lives but the pancreas handles it ok? // Sugar and starch do not cause diabeties, no matter how much you eat. J

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My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. The big problem isn’t the sugar he eats, but the other things that it displaces. REAL food. Veggies, protein, stuff like that. —

And there is apparently about to be a second problem i.e. a very meddlesome grandmother. Or what exactly does one intend to do with this information except nag the child’s parents? How many of the rest of you have actually calculated how many ounces of sugar is contained in the diets of your friends, neighbors, grandchildren, nieces and nephews? k

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According to Linus Pauling in his book: How to Live Longer and Feel Better, sucrose in the diet causes "sludging." The blood cells stick together, and there is not proper oxygenation of the tissues because the cells cannot get through the small cappilaries. Also consider that our pancreas evolved to handly only a small amount of sugar. Continued abuse could wear it out eventually. -Dave

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Hi Joyce and Paul, Yes my understanding is that the overconsumption of sugar and starch overworks the pancreas (as it’s constantly called upon to produce too much insulin) leading to hypoglycemia (delayed insulin response/hyperinsulinism) and then diabetes (little/no insulin). Does anyone know of any references on this? I seem to recall there was a recent paper. I’ve often wondered about this myself because i’m hypoglycemic (since about puberty) and i know that since i was little, i always gravitated toward sugars and "white foods"–lot of starch. I’m also wondering if some people are just predisposed to it and if they eat lots of sugar, this happens, whereas others eat like that all their lives but the pancreas handles it ok? I know that there have been diabetics in my family (uncle, great-grandparents). In any case i manage by eating a moderate-protein, moderate-fat, low-moderate carb diet and that seems to work pretty well, and keeps my weight very stable as well. Jennifer

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. Joyce M. Looking at the newsgroups in the headers, and making the connection that anyone clever enough to know how to crosspost to this many groups is smart enough to already KNOW what eating half a pound of sugar a day will do to a child, the phrase, "Crossposting Troll" comes to mind. Don’t be silly, orionca. Of course, she knows how harmful sugar is. What’s wrong with seeking more knowledge to add to what you already know?

lady you better start thinking about insulin de-sensitising and future weight problems. 1/2 a pound - – jeeez JM

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However, on a little different vein, I have heard that when you look at the arteries of thin and fat people, it’s the thin people who’ve got the buildup. I suppose if you have no fat cells, some of the cholesterol has no place to go.

I don’t think this is true, either the phenomenon or explanation. It’s true that thin people can have arterial buildup, but it’s not true that fat people don’t, and I’m quite confident that "the cholesterol has no place to go" is not the explanation. These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. "We cannot go around shooting people just because they have no reason to live, or else there would be no TV evangelists." – Judy Tenuta

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I can sympathize. I have a foolish daughter-in-law who doesn’t know anything about nutrition. I pass along info about over-weight children, and general info on nutrition. She is not very receptive because her entire family eats poorly… mostly fast foods, candy, coke or pepsi, etc., and they are all overweight. I hope the situation for you and for me and others in this predicament can resolve itself, because we walk a thin line when it comes to being considered interfering in-laws. Good luck. Laurel Taylor

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My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated. Joyce M. Check out the book "Sweet and Dangerous" by John Yudkin. It’s unfortunate that so many children are addicted to sugar and fat. There are other books available about the dangers of refined sugar and the assault on children with such garbage.

a half pound of sugar is about 900 calories. In many cultures and societies people consume a large portion of their calories in the fomr of sugar. this does not mean it is good for them. its addictive but so is running other people’s lives. I suggest you also check out some books on well meaning but meddling grandparents who decide that they know all about parenting and after all it’s my grandchild and do you want to ruin that child’s life and I didn’t bring you up that way and why did you marry that etc before you launch your reform on your offspring and inlaw. sincerely vince

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// My 5-year old grandson consumes more than 1/2 pound of sugar a day in cereal, cookies, candy, cake, ice cream, bread, flavored yogurt and very little nutritious food. I’m seeking hard data regarding the health consequences of this "diet." Any leads will be appreciated.//

Do you think your 5 year-old grandson will care about "data"? I think people do more harm than good when they start messing with what kids eat. J

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Your grandson who consumes 1/2 pound of sugar a day will probably gain weight. He is also more likely to get cavaties. He is not, however, at an increased risk of Type I (juvenile) diabetes. As he gets older, if he is overweight then he will be at an increased risk for developing Type II (adult-onset) diabetes.

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exclaimed…. Your grandson who consumes 1/2 pound of sugar a day will probably gain weight. He is also more likely to get cavaties. He is not, however, at an increased risk of Type I (juvenile) diabetes. As he gets older, if he is overweight then he will be at an increased risk for developing Type II (adult-onset) diabetes.

PMFJI I am almost 30 years old and cannot gain an ounce of weight. I can eat all the sugar I want and my diet frequently gravitates toward doing that. I’ve also never had a problem with cavities and am actually underweight. Does this mean I don’t have to worry about diabetes? I’m not saying one thing or the other, just wondering? However, on a little different vein, I have heard that when you look at the arteries of thin and fat people, it’s the thin people who’ve got the buildup. I suppose if you have no fat cells, some of the cholesterol has no place to go. David

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Check out the book "Sweet and Dangerous" by John Yudkin. It’s unfortunate that so many children are addicted to sugar and fat. There are other books available about the dangers of refined sugar and the assault on children with such garbage. Kevin

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Try the book: Lick the Sugar Habit by Nancy Appleton, PhD.

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If your goal is to gain weight, there are diets designed to help you do that. That would be a lot more sensible than simply eating more sugar. Being thin is no guarantee that you will not get Type II diabetes. However, overweight people are more likely to develop Type II diabetes than normal weight people. By the way, I have an 8-year-old son who was thin and developed Type I diabetes at age 4. (A child’s weight has nothing to do with whether or not Type I diabetes is contracted. Other factors, such as a genetic predisposition plus some kind of environmental trigger, seem to be involved.) My overweight mother has Type II diabetes. Me? I’m overweight, and at age 44 I know I’m putting myself at a higher risk for Type II diabetes (espeicially since I also have a genetic risk). Sigh. David, can I offload a little weight to you? Paul

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