Diabetes Talking

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"rose" <rosedawn_sc…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1109684565.627971.168050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com… : Mortgage.Author wrote:

: : > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) : > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, : > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. : : hi rebecca, : : is this the hearing after your 2nd turn-down, with the judge and the : doctors and voc rehab rep all gathered in a little courtroom? DO you : have a lawyer? i went through the soc-sec application process on my : own, but after the 2nd turndown and requirement for a hearing, i got a : social-security attorney for the hearing, and was approved immediately. : : i don’t know if he (my attorney) had as much to do with the approval as : the doctor they had there to testify — she was wonderful. a : neurologist with a lot of knowledge about M.S. she (the doctor) told : the judge that she would find me disabled based on M.S. fatigue alone, : even without the other physical problems i was having. getting a doc at : the hearing who is knowledgeable about M.S. is a BIG factor — i would : imagine there are many more of them these days than there were when i : applied, nearly 10 years ago. : : since i did have a lawyer there with me, i let him handle things for : the most part, till they asked me to testify and the judge had some : questions. there was a guy from voc rehab there, but he didn’t talk to : me — the judge asked him, based on what he had heard, did he think i : was a good candidate for vocational retraining, and he said no — that : was all she wrote. : : the only things i’d say would be common sense — be polite, even if the : judge is a jerk, answer his or her questions courteously, don’t think : that if you go off on them, they’ll be more likely to approve you, they : won’t, they’ll just be more likely to take offense at you. : : if you have a lawyer, and s/he is a social security disability expert, : let the lawyer handle whatever the judge lets him/her handle. if you’re : going alone, i really don’t knwo — bring a list of your symptoms, a : list of your doctors,  clinics, etc. — even if they’ve been provided : previously, having a list of them in case anything was left out is a : good idea. : : other than that, all i can do is wish you luck, and i’m wishing it for : you! : rose : Hello, I’ve had M.S. for over 20 years.  But I never thought of quitting working – I loved my job, the money was great, and I got to travel.  In April of 2000, I had a really terrible fall that tore open my internal organs.  Long story short, I never made it back to work, and the MS went to Secondary Progressive. I also have some pretty serious heart complications, and high blood pressure and diabetes type stuff and gobs of other stuff wrong with me.  I was on over a dozen medicines daily!  The hospital that I was in had me fill out the application for disability – I would never have thought of it.  I’ve never known anyone who was on it. Since then, as with the other 70% for first time applicants, I was denied flatly. And with the other 85% of folks who don’t give up, but ask for a Reconsideration, I was turned down flat. So I got a S.S. Disability attorney, and we requested a hearing.  The appeal with the judge is Friday. I have learned many things over these long, difficult years – about the system and how to use the advantages. What I know that I know is an applicant must have written proofs, such as medical test results.  I had 4 doctors who wrote letters saying I was disabled back 3 years ago when I first applied.  But they were thrown out – I was told that a doctor is not a vocational expert and cannot make a disability determination.   They can only report facts, such as test results. When my SSD attorney saw my medical records he said: this is 300 pages of bla, bla, bla.  We only get 59 minutes in front of the judge.  And he proceeded to "start over" getting the doctors, and therapists to write very specific language. So last time I had a very good case by MY standards and it went no where. This time, I have a pretty good case by THEIR standards.  Also, I am older, which helps a person get approved, and have more than one illness documented. If I didn’t know the system at all, I’d say I’d win it this time.  But knowing the system, nothing is sure.  I now know that the judge has (and relishes) total power and we have to feed him what he wants, how and when he wants it.  Of all the Administrative Appeals Hearing Judges in Tennessee, the guy I was assigned to is considered the toughest – so who knows. I do know that the judge has up to six months to make their decision, and if approved, up to 6 months to make the back-payments after that.  So even IF I am approved, it could be a long wait before I get the 75% of whatever is available.  (25% to attorney) I think the maximum is 24 months back pay – and they hold back 5 months as a deductible.  So they still haven’t gotten into a person’s pocket unless they take longer than 29 months to make a ruling. Start to finish will have been about 5 years – for what common sense would have approved the first time…however, rather than griping about what I’ve missed, I’ll just be grateful if/when it is finally settled. But thanks for being kind. Rebecca http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO.

hi rebecca, is this the hearing after your 2nd turn-down, with the judge and the doctors and voc rehab rep all gathered in a little courtroom? DO you have a lawyer? i went through the soc-sec application process on my own, but after the 2nd turndown and requirement for a hearing, i got a social-security attorney for the hearing, and was approved immediately. i don’t know if he (my attorney) had as much to do with the approval as the doctor they had there to testify — she was wonderful. a neurologist with a lot of knowledge about M.S. she (the doctor) told the judge that she would find me disabled based on M.S. fatigue alone, even without the other physical problems i was having. getting a doc at the hearing who is knowledgeable about M.S. is a BIG factor — i would imagine there are many more of them these days than there were when i applied, nearly 10 years ago. since i did have a lawyer there with me, i let him handle things for the most part, till they asked me to testify and the judge had some questions. there was a guy from voc rehab there, but he didn’t talk to me — the judge asked him, based on what he had heard, did he think i was a good candidate for vocational retraining, and he said no — that was all she wrote. the only things i’d say would be common sense — be polite, even if the judge is a jerk, answer his or her questions courteously, don’t think that if you go off on them, they’ll be more likely to approve you, they won’t, they’ll just be more likely to take offense at you. if you have a lawyer, and s/he is a social security disability expert, let the lawyer handle whatever the judge lets him/her handle. if you’re going alone, i really don’t knwo — bring a list of your symptoms, a list of your doctors,  clinics, etc. — even if they’ve been provided previously, having a list of them in case anything was left out is a good idea. other than that, all i can do is wish you luck, and i’m wishing it for you! rose

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"Mortgage.Author" <drsterl…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:3EIUd.37485$Rl5.33117@bignews4.bellsouth.net… MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30,

Good luck.    I hope everything goes your way. Jodi

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"Mortgage.Author" <drsterl…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:3EIUd.37485$Rl5.33117@bignews4.bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Laura" <the_happy_w…@myrealbox.net> wrote in message > news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… > : Mortgage.Author wrote: > : > That site was great – thanks!  It gave all the facts about winning > social > : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, > how > much > : > money, what not to do, etc. > : > > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN > IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. > THANK YOU, > REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

Do you have an attorney? Rob

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mortgage.Author wrote: > "Laura" <the_happy_w…@myrealbox.net> wrote in message > news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… > : Mortgage.Author wrote: > : > That site was great – thanks!  It gave all the facts about winning > social > : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how > much > : > money, what not to do, etc. > : > > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. > THANK YOU, > REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

I stand by my statement.  For the person of average intelligence and contact with the world it gives you no more information than they already know..

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS.

Well, really … that’s the most important thing. I looked at the site and I found things that I didn’t know, either. Contrary to some opinions, the issue isn’t "contact with the world" nor "average intelligence." It’s whether or not one has had the time, need and/or opportunity to familiarize oneself with this information. I haven’t. Good luck with your hearing. It sounds like you’ve been pursuing this for a long time. Kathie

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"Laura" <the_happy_w…@myrealbox.net> wrote in message

news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… : Mortgage.Author wrote:

: > That site was great – thanks!  It gave all the facts about winning social : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much : > money, what not to do, etc. : > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is : crap folks..don’t bother. AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. THANK YOU, REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > That site was great – thanks!  It gave all the facts about winning social > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much > money, what not to do, etc.

right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is crap folks..don’t bother.

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That site was great – thanks!  It gave all the facts about winning social security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much money, what not to do, etc. — http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic "KKT" <sendme.nos…@hotpop.com> wrote in message

news:42065379$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net… : As I was looking for something else, I found this site: : : http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/ : : It says: : : The purpose of this site is to distribute : information—crucial information that, nine times : out of ten, it’s impossible to get from the person : taking your claim for Disability and ssi benefits. : In essence, applying for disability and ssi benefits : might as well be a secret process since Social : Security does not try to make this information : clear or even understandable. : : I haven’t read much of it, so I can’t vouch for the information, but : perhaps someone with more experience with the process can comment on it. : : Kathie

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As I was looking for something else, I found this site: http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/ It says:         The purpose of this site is to distribute         information—crucial information that, nine times         out of ten, it’s impossible to get from the person         taking your claim for Disability and ssi benefits.         In essence, applying for disability and ssi benefits         might as well be a secret process since Social         Security does not try to make this information         clear or even understandable. I haven’t read much of it, so I can’t vouch for the information, but perhaps someone with more experience with the process can comment on it. Kathie

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