Diabetes Talking

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Oh and I forgot to add: "Atrobel tablets are used for the treatment of pylorospasm", which is a spasm of the colon and it can either cause retention of wind, (colic), or diarrhoea. — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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In article <a8ueq0969roa3su13qahmaidhk5rlfn…@4ax.com>,  Clarence Crow <c…@perch.biz> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:42:12 -0800, REP <r…@inanna.com> wrote: > ><snip> > >The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and > >hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of > >Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine > >is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help > >with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, > >much worse. Much much much much much worse. > Seeing your condition is the opposite of mine and doesn’t have so many > sources of pain to deal with, you haven’t really offered me a viable > alternative.

You were complaining of constipation and listing off anticholinergic medicines that you take. I wasn’t offering you an alternative. I was merely telling you that you you were self-medicating with drugs that cause constipation. If you take anticholinergic drugs, espeically a great many of them at your age, expect to be constipated. As for what kind of pain I have to deal with, I didn’t go into that as it is irrelevant to your constipation, but just let’s say I’d get down on my hands and knees and weep with joy if my problems were so few in number. — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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In article <fvedq0duji5k9l3v30fg8bv2k0jnga6…@4ax.com>,  Clarence Crow <c…@perch.biz> wrote: > I’m m.69.au and IBS rules my day. (colic and constipation) >  I found something called Fiorinal > Anagesic-Relaxant in the chemist’s (pharmacy) drugs. > This helps me get 5-6 hrs sleep, but during the week I only have > constipated motions even when using the Granocol. > An additional relaxant I use is also Atrobel (Hyoscine and Atropine). > Come Fridays, I have a "big night out" on Magnesium Oxide Colon > Cleanse to de-toxify my week’s accumulation. > Anyone in this group have any pointers (no snake-oil please)?

The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, much worse. Much much much much much worse. Fiber does work for most people with constipation, and most find that starting with a small dose and gradually increasing the size over a few weeks causes the least discomfort. Eating things like sweet potatoes is helpful, too, if your diabetic management plan allows you to eat them. I have the exact opposite problem and take a large amount of Lomotil to attempt to slow things down, so I’m afraid I don’t have any first-hand experience with constipation, but I do know my antiperistalsis agents! — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:42:12 -0800, REP <r…@inanna.com> wrote: ><snip> >The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and >hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of >Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine >is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help >with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, >much worse. Much much much much much worse. ><snip>

I’m aware of the Codiene content in Fiorinal but I DO have PAIN to deal with from 3 sources by the time I’m ready for bed. I’m not aware of any Hyoscine and Atropine (Belladonna) in Fiorinal. The packet states: Paracetemol 500mg Codiene Phosphate 8mg Doxylamine Succinate 5 mg The Atrobel, I’ll grant you does say it helps to dry up gastric fluid secretion. The bottle states: Hyoscyamine Hydrobromide 92.5 microgram Atropine Sulfate 13.5 microgram Hyoscine Hydrobromide 9.9 microgram (I’m told it’s similar to Buscopan, which was originally prescribed for me by a GP). Seeing your condition is the opposite of mine and doesn’t have so many sources of pain to deal with, you haven’t really offered me a viable alternative. Really, what I need, are suggestions from someone who mirrors my condition, if such a being exists on this planet Thanks again for re-iterating what others have told me from time to time, but it was the the GPs and Pharmacists who suggested my current medications. — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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Hello group When I found this group by googling around, I was surprised to see so few posts in it, seeing the large percentage of IBS sufferers in the world I’m m.69.au and IBS rules my day. (colic and constipation) However, after numerous "white knuckle" barium enemas dating back from the ’80s, plus several other "….scopies" , my Gastro-Enterologist, slammed down the lid on his laptop computer, effecting closure for him, and muttered…"you have mild diverticulae in the transverse, descending and sigmoid colon, and you seem to be stressful and in need of a good FART!…..here’s a scrip for some Amitryptiline, and they may help you….pay the receptionist on the way out" ($180.00). Also my GP told me to get into the fibre and prescribed some granocol. The Amitryptilyne worked but made me doughy-headed for the next day and mostly useless for work. The fibre bloated me more. The granocol helped a little. As I have a few other pain causing ailments, like osteo-arthritis in both feet, ankles and R knee, plus Peripheral Neuropathy in both feet from Diabetes Type 2, I found something called Fiorinal Anagesic-Relaxant in the chemist’s (pharmacy) drugs. This helps me get 5-6 hrs sleep, but during the week I only have constipated motions even when using the Granocol. An additional relaxant I use is also Atrobel (Hyoscine and Atropine). Come Fridays, I have a "big night out" on Magnesium Oxide Colon Cleanse to de-toxify my week’s accumulation. Anyone in this group have any pointers (no snake-oil please)? — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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