Diabetes Talking

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Yes, I am selling a product, and I readily acknowledge it. The reason I suggested private e-mail is because this is a non-commercial forum, and I did not want to degrade this newsgroup as have many others with their blatant advertising.

Then take your junk and peddle it elsewhere! You’ve already degraded this group be trying to sell something.  You politeness aside, advertisements do not belong here, and are not appropriate postings for this newsgroup. Steve

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –             WORKING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE   Why private e-mail?  Seems to me that public discussion would weed out the flotsum   and substantiate the valid components a lot quicker. Because if it’s chromium piccolinate, or other recently discredited snake oils that he is trying to sell to us without a prescription or our doctor’s knowledge, we can’t *refute* it without public exposure. Disseminating information about effective and ineffective treatment is in the newsgroup charter. This clown is selling something: mark down Mike Maturen as a probable snake-oil vendor.                            Nico Garcia My opinions are my own, not MIT’s or my employer’s or my cat’s (Well, maybe my cat’s….)

Well, Nico, I had gained respect for you based on your post "HE’S BACK", but I just lost it.  Yes, I am selling a product, and I readily acknowledge it.  I do NOT, however, make medical claims for it.  I am not, nor have I ever been, a "snake oil" salesman.  I am insulted by your jumping to conclusions without even chatting with me. Had you bothered to respond, you would have found out that I am the immediate past president of our local chapter of the American Diabetes Association, that I have had diabetes (Type I) for eight years, and that I am about to found a local diabetes foundation to help pay for supplies for those who are unable.  What have you done for those people, my friend? The reason I suggested private e-mail is because this is a non-commercial forum, and I did not want to degrade this newsgroup as have many others with their blatant advertising.  I also stated that I was more than willing to carry on a discussion in this forum.  I am not trying to hide the fact that I have a product to sell.  I am proud of my product…unlike some companies who encourage their distributors to lie about who they are. If you have a problem with me, follow your own advice…don’t read it! In the meantime, let’s examine all avenues of help for those of us who have this disease.  Natural methods have some value.  They may not cure or even treat diabetes…but if they can help build stronger bodies and immune systems…why not at least consider them. I am appalled at your closed-mindedness. To call me a "clown" and "snake oil vendor" without even talking to me is the mark of a hatchet man…something you have slammed Mickey and others for (and rightly so).  Take your own advice and check things out before you slander or libel yourself in public. Mike —           WORKING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE

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              WORKING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE    Why private e-mail?  Seems to me that public discussion would weed out the flotsum    and substantiate the valid components a lot quicker. Because if it’s chromium piccolinate, or other recently discredited snake oils that he is trying to sell to us without a prescription or our doctor’s knowledge, we can’t *refute* it without public exposure. Disseminating information about effective and ineffective treatment is in the newsgroup charter. This clown is selling something: mark down Mike Maturen as a probable snake-oil vendor.                                 Nico Garcia My opinions are my own, not MIT’s or my employer’s or my cat’s (Well, maybe my cat’s….)

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I would like to discuss, via private e-mail, natural health with other persons that have diabetes, or their loved ones.  I have had diabetes for eight years, and use insulin.  I supplement my regimin with natural health products to build my immune system, improve my circulation, level (not lower) by blood glucose, etc. If anyone is interested in such a discussion, or would like to know what I use and why, please respond via e-mail. Mike Maturen —           WORKING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE

Why private e-mail?  Seems to me that public discussion would weed out the flotsum and substantiate the valid components a lot quicker. There are a lot of useful products (natural and otherwise) but I get concerned when anyone becomes secretive or wants to do a one on one sales job. Orville R. Butler

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I would like to discuss, via private e-mail, natural health with other persons that have diabetes, or their loved ones.  I have had diabetes for eight years, and use insulin.  I supplement my regimin with natural health products to build my immune system, improve my circulation, level (not lower) by blood glucose, etc. If anyone is interested in such a discussion, or would like to know what I use and why, please respond via e-mail. Mike Maturen —           WORKING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE

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