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SEs

admin — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I’m coming off a 2-week cold. I’ve felt fine for three days or more. Yesterday I got my Lupron Depot shot. Today, I almost feel as I will pass out. I’ve had chills and fever. My butt is extremely sore where the shot went in. This was my 7th shot and I have never experienced this before. I once had a mildly sore butt… nothing else. Opinions? — Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 non Illegitimi carborundum

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Steve Don’t get me started on SE’s from ADT. (In this initial run, I’m up to 5/6, so 7 I haven’t experienced). Basically, your total immune system is weakened by ADT, so you need something to bolster it. Your PCP may suggest something. (one size doesn’t fit all.) The head nurse that administers the shots has told me of the "overlap" effect, which can be fairly savage for a few weeks. I’m having that now after copping one last Wed. With me, everything gravitates to my feet, due to the vascular probs I have as a spin-off from Diabetes type 2. Have you been inoculated against the major strains of ‘flu? This won’t help the common cold, but does give you some shielding. — Reader to complete… — Please reply to this ng as my email adress is fake: — Regards — CC

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cellulitis poss SE from ADT?

admin — Mon, 16 May 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Hello again all Just when you thought I’d slipped into lurk mode, I’ve returned with a query ;p Just managed to get in a full week’s work in my office and I get cellulitis in my lower R leg My GP says it could be a SE of the ADT I’m still on, and the EBRT I’ve just completed, lowering my immune system to allow the bacteria easy access. So I’m back on horse-needles in the arse plus oral antibiotics for some days to see if this recedes, else it’s hospitalisation to go on a drip for a few days. I’ve had cellulitis before a couple of times and it seems to be another spin-off from my Diabetes type 2 (NIDDM). Anyone else had a similar experience? — Reader to complete… — Please reply to this ng as my email adress is fake: — Regards — CC

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I’d say lurking is in the mind of the lurker… but, I digress. I’ve never heard of cellulitis being an SE of RT or HT. However, I’d opt for RT if it were either. But, your best bet seems to be your diabetes. Or maybe a combination of diabetes and the stressed immune system from RT. — Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 non Illegitimi carborundum

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello again all Just when you thought I’d slipped into lurk mode, I’ve returned with a query ;p Just managed to get in a full week’s work in my office and I get cellulitis in my lower R leg My GP says it could be a SE of the ADT I’m still on, and the EBRT I’ve just completed, lowering my immune system to allow the bacteria easy access. So I’m back on horse-needles in the arse plus oral antibiotics for some days to see if this recedes, else it’s hospitalisation to go on a drip for a few days. I’ve had cellulitis before a couple of times and it seems to be another spin-off from my Diabetes type 2 (NIDDM). Anyone else had a similar experience? — Reader to complete… — Please reply to this ng as my email adress is fake: — Regards — CC

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I’d say lurking is in the mind of the lurker… but, I digress.

I haven’t really been lurking, but the office I’ve been using is only on a LAN, so can only come home to check out the ngs. Additionally, I haven’t had much to contribute or comment on these past 2 wks. I’ve never heard of cellulitis being an SE of RT or HT. However, I’d opt for RT if it were either. But, your best bet seems to be your diabetes. Or maybe a combination of diabetes and the stressed immune system from RT.

I’d lean toward the RT, as on the last week of sessions, I was feeling as if I had a extra pair of sox on immediately after each session. Peripheral Neuropathy from the NIDDM in both feet would also contribute to this. I never realised I could be stressed, though. At present, the cellulitis is gradually receding with the oral antibiotics, only now, but I’m resting up until it’s cleared up. Don’t feel like taking amputation on board at the moment. Thanks for your reply. — Reader to complete… — Please reply to this ng as my email adress is fake: — Regards — CC

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My friend Jerry

admin — Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Yup. It’s related to the fact that, due to obesity, for the first time in modern history, our kids’ life span will be less than ours. The "cure"? Get them off their butts, into sports, and out of McDonald’s. Turns my stomach when my buds feed their kids crap; there’s no excuse for it. There’s no way to sugarcoat it: may as well encourage the vulerable little suckers to smoke. Easy to treat? Not without education, motivation, willpower, discipline, and tough love. I.P.

Also get them off the soft drinks. Dale j. —

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It’s not blood sugar measurements alone. He needs a complete lab workup by an Endocrinologist specializing in diabetes management. I have type 2 diabetes and get by fine with oral medication that keeps my blood sugar under control. A GP did not help me. He needs a specialist right away.

And, of course, a good dietician. I.P.

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does anyone know how high his blood sugar can go before he will need insulin injections?

He may *never* need insulin shots, but rather pills. I have type 2 (diagnosed while I was recovering from my rrp), and I easily control it with three pills a day, and watch (or at least *try* to) my diet. He should see a specialist and a dietician. The specialist will get him on a correct medicine regimen, while the dietician will help him with his diet – what to eat and not to eat. Type 2 diabetes has become very "popular" lately among Americans. I suppose it is our diet. But, it is easily treated. Dave

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This is Howie..My friend Jerry is due for a biopsy..he has Diabetes Type 2..blood sugar well over 200..Uro said NO Biopsy till his sugar is under control…does anyone know how high his blood sugar can go before he will need insulin injections?

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jhh is right, Howie. I have Type 2 diabetes also. I take oral meds to keep the Blood Glucose (sugar) under control. Your friend needs to be evaluated and then be given a plan (meds, diet, etc.) to get things under control. Ron B. Chicago

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Weight

admin — Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi, I am male and am 6 feet one inch. I weigh 14 stone but was nearly 16 stone some time ago. I think I should be 13 stone. I have Diabetes am I still at risk with my Diabetes? Thanks.

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HI Paul… That sounds like a question for your doctor. 14 stone (196 pounds for the yanks) sounds pretty good for 6 foot 1 inch, my boyfriend is 191 and looks great at 5′ 11"… but that’s not a medical issue. All charts that I can find say between 165 and 190 so you don’t sound that far off. Frankly, without looking at you, I can’t tell what you SHOULD be. You could be quite muscular, and be 225# and very healthy (have friends that look like body builders but have an "unhealthy" BMI) (BMI’s are stupid btw, imo). If you looked thin everywhere else, but had a large belly, then you’d have more to go. Guess it depends on the body type. Lana

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Hi, I am male and am 6 feet one inch. I weigh 14 stone but was nearly 16 stone some time ago. I think I should be 13 stone. I have Diabetes am I still at risk with my Diabetes? Thanks.

What sort of diabetes – type 1 (insulin defendant) or type 2 (usually controlled by diet and oral drugs)? And what kind of risk are you asking about? If you eat properly, lose the excess weight, and take sufficient exercise, and are a type 2 diabetic, you may find the raised blood sugar levels lessen, but you will always need to be careful, and may need to stick to a diet that is lighter on foods with a higher glycemic index than the average unaffected person. If you are type 1, the only known and effective cure is a cell transplant: unless you come to Kent and emulate one of our local diabetics (the only one for whom this has so far effected a cure), you will always be diabetic, like my husband, and will always need to control it with insulin. The WW eating plan is an excellent one to follow if you are diabetic: type 2’s may need to jigger it in a lower carb direction, and this will need to be done carefully. Every person responds slightly differently, and it’s a matter of experimenting to see what works for you. With type 1, it may be necessary to alter the insulin dose slightly to take account of the lower volumes of food being consumed, along with raised exercise levels: DH, frequently adjusts his doses to cope with what we eat, when we eat, and his exercise regime. Yesterday was a good example of this: lunchtime dose was lower than average to take account of the 7 mile walk he and our son did round Ightham Mote yesterday afternoon, and was calculated carefully to take in a late dinner with a very healthy main course, and a dessert of Tarte au Citron and ice cream. Having diabetes of either sort need no stop you doing what you like: look to Sir Steve Redgrave as an excellent example! DH also does his bit – you can see some of his walking exploits on our web site. Hit the URL below and look behind his picture to see some of his exploits! — Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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Ping Marina

admin — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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But it is the weirdest thing I ever heard of. Thick skin??? Just call me Lizard Woman. Thanks again for all the purrs. I sat there in the doc’s waiting room, smiling to myself when I thought of all the kitties around the world purring for me. ;o)

That would have had me scratching my head, too! If I were told that, I would have so many questions! I would first wonder which layer of the skin it is that is thicker? Would it mean that I could handle hot irons without injury? Do I need to use more skin lotion than most people? Would my skin caliper bodyfat measurements need to be adjusted downwards? Betty is purring that there aren’t any serious systemic medical problems.

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Hang in there Marina. Sounds like they’ve got you covered. Got my gang still sending purrs. — Cheryl

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I would first wonder which layer of the skin it is that is thicker? Would it mean that I could handle hot irons without injury?

rotfl! — Cheryl

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about Re: Ping Marina: Marina, don’t worry, I have thick skin too and I have this hump just below my neck. And, you know, I also have juvenile diabetes (type I). My doctor hasn’t worried about anything so far, so I think we’re both safe. I do have high leaching of calcium, so you might want to have that checked out as it could lead to osteoporosis later on, but that’s easily corrected with medication like Fosamax.

So do you have any idea who the older woman is in the Fosamax ads? She looks somewhat familiar [I'm sure I should be able to recognize her from something other than those ads], but I cannot retrieve a name. — "Don’t mess with major appliances unless you know what you are doing (or unless your life insurance policy is up-to-date)." – John, RCFL

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I’m so glad to hear your problem is easily treatable and that you will be ok, Marina. Continued purrs and best wishes, — Polonca & Soncek

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That is strange Marina, I’ve had trouble with my neck for the last six or seven weeks the Dr says its athritus, probably is, but when you hear of things like this, well it does make you wondermy pain goes rightup behind my ear and round the back of my neck. anyway I’m glad to hear that your feeling better about it and can get treatment. Jean.P.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Marina, thought of you a lot today; sending mega-purrs and hugs from us all. Christine, Omar, Midnight, Oreo, Robin & Tucker Thank you, Christine and Victor. The news is not bad, though I really didn’t need another disease to worry about. I feel I’ve made too much of a mystery of this, so here’s the story. I’ll try to make it short. I’ve been seeing a physical therapist for some while for my neck and shoulder pains, and he found a lump on my neck. I went for an ultra-sound examination, and the good news is that it’s not a tumour, but the bad news is that I have abnormally thick skin. Apparently, everyone has this lump in their neck, but mine was noticeably because of the thick skin. The doc checked lower on my back and on my arms as well, and it is too thick everywhere. No wonder I’m stiff! You might think that having thick skin would be a good thing, but apparently it can indicate some systemic problem. Well, the doc I saw yesterday (Thursday) was my occupational health care doc, and when I told him about my diabetes and all its complications, he thought it would be better to refer me to my diabetes doc for this thick skin thing, too, because, as he put it, it’s better to care for the whole person than just one symptom, and the thick skin indicates an internal medical problem anyway. I’m happy with with being referred to my diabetes doc, because she knows everything about my health and will be able to piece it all together, as it were. So I’m waiting to see her, and will probably have to have a lot of tests done, but apparently the prognosis is usually good and it’s easily treatable, so I’m not worried any more. But it is the weirdest thing I ever heard of. Thick skin??? Just call me Lizard Woman. Thanks again for all the purrs. I sat there in the doc’s waiting room, smiling to myself when I thought of all the kitties around the world purring for me. ;o) — Marina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

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Purrs from here will continue until youfind a resolution. Sam

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you, Christine and Victor. The news is not bad, though I really didn’t need another disease to worry about. I feel I’ve made too much of a mystery of this, so here’s the story. I’ll try to make it short. I’ve been seeing a physical therapist for some while for my neck and shoulder pains, and he found a lump on my neck. I went for an ultra-sound examination, and the good news is that it’s not a tumour, but the bad news is that I have abnormally thick skin. Apparently, everyone has this lump in their neck, but mine was noticeably because of the thick skin. The doc checked lower on my back and on my arms as well, and it is too thick everywhere. No wonder I’m stiff! You might think that having thick skin would be a good thing, but apparently it can indicate some systemic problem. Well, the doc I saw yesterday (Thursday) was my occupational health care doc, and when I told him about my diabetes and all its complications, he thought it would be better to refer me to my diabetes doc for this thick skin thing, too, because, as he put it, it’s better to care for the whole person than just one symptom, and the thick skin indicates an internal medical problem anyway. I’m happy with with being referred to my diabetes doc, because she knows everything about my health and will be able to piece it all together, as it were. So I’m waiting to see her, and will probably have to have a lot of tests done, but apparently the prognosis is usually good and it’s easily treatable, so I’m not worried any more. But it is the weirdest thing I ever heard of. Thick skin??? Just call me Lizard Woman. Thanks again for all the purrs. I sat there in the doc’s waiting room, smiling to myself when I thought of all the kitties around the world purring for me. ;o)

you better watch out for Vino … You feel like you have a little tic on the side of your head? that’s Thea sending you headbutts! Bono throws in some drooly purrs! Aren’t you lucky? Best wishes! — :: lewe lewemi at yahoo dot se || cat pics: photos.yahoo.com/lewemi

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I’m glad the news was not as bad as you were thinking it might be; I hope it turns out to be very, very minor. I won’t mention to Mike that his Aunt Marina is a lizard woman – he is also a mighty lizard hunter. ;-) —— Krista

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Marina, thought of you a lot today; sending mega-purrs and hugs from us all. Christine, Omar, Midnight, Oreo, Robin & Tucker

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Yes, we too! — Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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Marina, thought of you a lot today; sending mega-purrs and hugs from us all. Christine, Omar, Midnight, Oreo, Robin & Tucker

Thank you, Christine and Victor. The news is not bad, though I really didn’t need another disease to worry about. I feel I’ve made too much of a mystery of this, so here’s the story. I’ll try to make it short. I’ve been seeing a physical therapist for some while for my neck and shoulder pains, and he found a lump on my neck. I went for an ultra-sound examination, and the good news is that it’s not a tumour, but the bad news is that I have abnormally thick skin. Apparently, everyone has this lump in their neck, but mine was noticeably because of the thick skin. The doc checked lower on my back and on my arms as well, and it is too thick everywhere. No wonder I’m stiff! You might think that having thick skin would be a good thing, but apparently it can indicate some systemic problem. Well, the doc I saw yesterday (Thursday) was my occupational health care doc, and when I told him about my diabetes and all its complications, he thought it would be better to refer me to my diabetes doc for this thick skin thing, too, because, as he put it, it’s better to care for the whole person than just one symptom, and the thick skin indicates an internal medical problem anyway. I’m happy with with being referred to my diabetes doc, because she knows everything about my health and will be able to piece it all together, as it were. So I’m waiting to see her, and will probably have to have a lot of tests done, but apparently the prognosis is usually good and it’s easily treatable, so I’m not worried any more. But it is the weirdest thing I ever heard of. Thick skin??? Just call me Lizard Woman. Thanks again for all the purrs. I sat there in the doc’s waiting room, smiling to myself when I thought of all the kitties around the world purring for me. ;o) — Marina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

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I hope it is not something too bad Marina!! It sounds kind of uncomfortable. Purrs that there is something you can do. Karen

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But it is the weirdest thing I ever heard of. Thick skin??? Just call me Lizard Woman.

Watch out for Vino!!! Or Maya… she’s a great lizzard hunter too… Thanks again for all the purrs. I sat there in the doc’s waiting room, smiling to myself when I thought of all the kitties around the world purring for me. ;o)

It does give a sense of comfort, doesn’t it? I’m glad to hear it’s not a tumour. Hopefully this is just one of those "it’s weird but it’s not a problem" kind of thing. We’ll keep on purring. Victor — Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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Marina, don’t worry, I have thick skin too and I have this hump just below my neck. And, you know, I also have juvenile diabetes (type I). My doctor hasn’t worried about anything so far, so I think we’re both safe. I do have high leaching of calcium, so you might want to have that checked out as it could lead to osteoporosis later on, but that’s easily corrected with medication like Fosamax. We;re both healthy with all our cat friends purring for us. Glad you’re ok. Jazz & his mama — Irulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time

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Is it what is called a "dowager’s hump?". I think thick skin is better than thin skin which bruises if it gets the slightest bump (me). As one gets older things change…….and there is not much to do about it. I wish you well and hope any treatment makes you fel better.

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ok. I think my doc has the calcium checked once a year (I have four check-ups a year, and one of them is a very thorough one, with lots of tests + ECG). Good to hear that you are thick-skinned too ;o) and are doing fine. I sort of suspected I might be worried about nothing. Thanks again to everyone for the purrs. They really helped me sleep the nights previous to the appointment. Of course, having two furry purrmachines purring in stereo on the bed with me helped a bit, too. ;o) — Marina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

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Sorry for your continuing medical difficulties, Marina, but we sure are thinking of you and sending continual purrs, too. Christine, Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker

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A box is on its way to you today with the inhaled med chamber and mask. I don’t know how long it will take to get to you. Sorry it took me so long to mail it, these days you have to hand a box over to a postal worker (can’t just drop it off) and postal hours and my work hours make it difficult to do that. Julie

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Julie, thanks so much for going to this trouble. Looking forward to trying it out on Nikki! Or not. ;o) I seriously have no idea how she’ll react. Will just have to wait and see. Thanks again. — Marina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am home tonight with the option to go back to Auntie’s if I can’t manage. Hopefully I will be able to if I take it very steadily and carefully. I was just too homesick and missing my kitties. I have missed around 5000 posts but on your reply to my post I saw "in loving memory of Nikki." If you are beginning to recover from this, I’m sorry to raise it again but I can’t let it go by without saying something about what I feel on hearing that she is gone. Firstly. I admired how you took care of her with the health problems she had. A lot of people would not want the bother of it, and would have had the cat put down. This was brought home to me yesterday, overhearing conversations within my extended family. " "So and so" (cousin) got a springer spaniel puppy, it lasted two weeks, it chewed things so she got rid of it" " Aaaargh. Secondly. You were and are a fantastic meowmie. Thirdly. I wish Nikki lots of paper bags and boxes while she waits for you at the RB.

Thank you for your kind words, Tweed. It is now two weeks since I had to rush Nikki to the vet school hospital because she was having a seizure. A few hours later, over the phone, I gave the vet permission to release her. I have her ashes and am going to scatter them out on her beloved island. I think I’m still in the early stages of mourning. I go through alternate periods of denial and realisation. I just don’t want to believe that I’ll never hold that purring little chunky body again. I suspect it’s going to be hard to go out to the island this year. — Marina, Frank and Miranda. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am home tonight with the option to go back to Auntie’s if I can’t manage. Hopefully I will be able to if I take it very steadily and carefully. I was just too homesick and missing my kitties. I have missed around 5000 posts but on your reply to my post I saw "in loving memory of Nikki." If you are beginning to recover from this, I’m sorry to raise it again but I can’t let it go by without saying something about what I feel on hearing that she is gone. Firstly. I admired how you took care of her with the health problems she had. A lot of people would not want the bother of it, and would have had the cat put down. This was brought home to me yesterday, overhearing conversations within my extended family. " "So and so" (cousin) got a springer spaniel puppy, it lasted two weeks, it chewed things so she got rid of it" " Aaaargh. Secondly. You were and are a fantastic meowmie. Thirdly. I wish Nikki lots of paper bags and boxes while she waits for you at the RB. Thank you for your kind words, Tweed. It is now two weeks since I had to rush Nikki to the vet school hospital because she was having a seizure. A few hours later, over the phone, I gave the vet permission to release her. I have her ashes and am going to scatter them out on her beloved island. I think I’m still in the early stages of mourning. I go through alternate periods of denial and realisation. I just don’t want to believe that I’ll never hold that purring little chunky body again. I suspect it’s going to be hard to go out to the island this year.

I know those early stages of mourning only too well. The loss is the first thing you think about as soon as your eyes open in the morning, and the last thing you think about at night. Oh, yes. Nikki was a very lucky cat, she had a long happy life with a perfectly trained slave Lots of kitties never get that, do they? One day – but not yet – only the happy memories will remain with you, I promise. Until then ((((hugs))) Tweed, KFC & BF

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am home tonight with the option to go back to Auntie’s if I can’t manage. Hopefully I will be able to if I take it very steadily and carefully. I was just too homesick and missing my kitties. I have missed around 5000 posts but on your reply to my post I saw "in loving memory of Nikki." If you are beginning to recover from this, I’m sorry to raise it again but I can’t let it go by without saying something about what I feel on hearing that she is gone. Firstly. I admired how you took care of her with the health problems she had. A lot of people would not want the bother of it, and would have had the cat put down. This was brought home to me yesterday, overhearing conversations within my extended family. " "So and so" (cousin) got a springer spaniel puppy, it lasted two weeks, it chewed things so she got rid of it" " Aaaargh. Secondly. You were and are a fantastic meowmie. Thirdly. I wish Nikki lots of paper bags and boxes while she waits for you at the RB. Sadly Tweed

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I am home tonight with the option to go back to Auntie’s if I can’t manage. Hopefully I will be able to if I take it very steadily and carefully. I was just too homesick and missing my kitties. I have missed around 5000 posts but on your reply to my post I saw "in loving memory of Nikki." If you are beginning to recover from this, I’m sorry to raise it again but I can’t let it go by without saying something about what I feel on hearing that she is gone. Firstly. I admired how you took care of her with the health problems she had. A lot of people would not want the bother of it, and would have had the cat put down. This was brought home to me yesterday, overhearing conversations within my extended family. " "So and so" (cousin) got a springer spaniel puppy, it lasted two weeks, it chewed things so she got rid of it" " Aaaargh. Secondly. You were and are a fantastic meowmie. Thirdly. I wish Nikki lots of paper bags and boxes while she waits for you at the RB. Sadly Tweed

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Marina I read in another thread that you are thinking of stopping Nikki’s prednisolone. I understand why you would want to do this, but please check with your vet first. I had a dog on long term pred once and I seem to remember they have to be weaned off it gradually over about a month. I’d feel happier if you gave her her tablet today, since she missed yesterday’s, and see what the vet says tomorrow about how to get her off it safely. Tweed HAve to second that. I know that in a human, stopping prednisone after long term use has to be done very slowly. Stopping suddenly can be fatal.

Thank you, Tweed and Jo. I’ll taper it off slowly, unless she starts wheezing again. — Marina, Frank, Nikki, and introducing: Mere! marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

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Hi, Marina I read in another thread that you are thinking of stopping Nikki’s prednisolone. I understand why you would want to do this, but please check with your vet first. I had a dog on long term pred once and I seem to remember they have to be weaned off it gradually over about a month. I’d feel happier if you gave her her tablet today, since she missed yesterday’s, and see what the vet says tomorrow about how to get her off it safely. Tweed

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Marina I read in another thread that you are thinking of stopping Nikki’s prednisolone. I understand why you would want to do this, but please check with your vet first. I had a dog on long term pred once and I seem to remember they have to be weaned off it gradually over about a month. I’d feel happier if you gave her her tablet today, since she missed yesterday’s, and see what the vet says tomorrow about how to get her off it safely. Tweed

HAve to second that. I know that in a human, stopping prednisone after long term use has to be done very slowly. Stopping suddenly can be fatal. Jo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Complain About Triage Nurse ?

admin — Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Actually I think I will follow it up…… After all whats the point of knowing the chairman (in this case woman) Of City Hospital without making a fuss ?

Good – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also I am eager to get on as a patient rep for the south birmingham PCT, I beleive 3 people from Brum have voluntered. Hopefully slowly people can be re-educated. My DSN Jo is FANTASTIC she is one of the best nurses I have ever met, and my faith in her and her continual support and efforts to find the correct regime for me -keep me going. She mentioned that there is a lot of general ignorance about Type ! as so much effort has been put into recent advertising for Type 2, so I suppise it is easy for poeple to get confused, but a Nurse..? Happy Monday ! Su

If you are trying to get a pump ( as you say in another post) this sort of manoeuvre will do yourself some good as well as your experience helping other diabetics in your area so I wish you well with your decision. To get the pump, you will need some clout, by being on the PCT will definitely help. The local consultant has children that he can not get the funding to put them on to a pump. He is raising funds by doing all sorts of different charity events himself. I believe you could do a lot of good if you get into the PCT, you are the sort of people that are needed, it will not be easy though, because they (the PCT) are set in their ways. — DaveT dx 1955 T1 BeefL + Humalog as required dave_mt&btopenworld.com change and to at to reach me

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |Actually I think I will follow it up…… |After all whats the point of knowing the chairman (in this case woman) Of |City Hospital without making a fuss ? | |Also I am eager to get on as a patient rep for the south birmingham PCT, I |beleive 3 people from Brum have voluntered. Hopefully slowly people can be |re-educated. My DSN Jo is FANTASTIC she is one of the best nurses I have |ever met, and my faith in her and her continual support and efforts to find |the correct regime for me -keep me going. | |She mentioned that there is a lot of general ignorance about Type ! as so |much effort has been put into recent advertising for Type 2, so I suppise it |is easy for poeple to get confused, but a Nurse..? |Happy Monday ! | |Su | x-post cut Go for it. I’ll be cheering you on from half a world away:-) Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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|Actually I think I will follow it up…… |After all whats the point of knowing the chairman (in this case woman) Of |City Hospital without making a fuss ? | |Also I am eager to get on as a patient rep for the south birmingham PCT, I |beleive 3 people from Brum have voluntered. Hopefully slowly people can be |re-educated. My DSN Jo is FANTASTIC she is one of the best nurses I have |ever met, and my faith in her and her continual support and efforts to find |the correct regime for me -keep me going. | |She mentioned that there is a lot of general ignorance about Type ! as so |much effort has been put into recent advertising for Type 2, so I suppise it |is easy for poeple to get confused, but a Nurse..? |Happy Monday ! | |Su | x-post cut Go for it. I’ll be cheering you on from half a world away:-) Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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Actually I think I will follow it up…… . . .(snip). . She mentioned that there is a lot of general ignorance about Type ! as so much effort has been put into recent advertising for Type 2, so I suppise it is easy for poeple to get confused, but a Nurse..? Su

One guess, (only a guess): She went to school She studied a textbook She listened to lectures She took and passed written tests and all of the above said Adult-onset Diabetes = Type 2 That misconception is so widely spread that I can’t see it being an accident. Regards Old Al

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Actually I think I will follow it up…… After all whats the point of knowing the chairman (in this case woman) Of City Hospital without making a fuss ? Also I am eager to get on as a patient rep for the south birmingham PCT, I beleive 3 people from Brum have voluntered. Hopefully slowly people can be re-educated. My DSN Jo is FANTASTIC she is one of the best nurses I have ever met, and my faith in her and her continual support and efforts to find the correct regime for me -keep me going. She mentioned that there is a lot of general ignorance about Type ! as so much effort has been put into recent advertising for Type 2, so I suppise it is easy for poeple to get confused, but a Nurse..? Happy Monday ! Su

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Social security information

admin — Sun, 06 Feb 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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"rose" wrote in message

news:1109684565.627971.168050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com… : Mortgage.Author wrote:

: : > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) : > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, : > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. : : hi rebecca, : : is this the hearing after your 2nd turn-down, with the judge and the : doctors and voc rehab rep all gathered in a little courtroom? DO you : have a lawyer? i went through the soc-sec application process on my : own, but after the 2nd turndown and requirement for a hearing, i got a : social-security attorney for the hearing, and was approved immediately. : : i don’t know if he (my attorney) had as much to do with the approval as : the doctor they had there to testify — she was wonderful. a : neurologist with a lot of knowledge about M.S. she (the doctor) told : the judge that she would find me disabled based on M.S. fatigue alone, : even without the other physical problems i was having. getting a doc at : the hearing who is knowledgeable about M.S. is a BIG factor — i would : imagine there are many more of them these days than there were when i : applied, nearly 10 years ago. : : since i did have a lawyer there with me, i let him handle things for : the most part, till they asked me to testify and the judge had some : questions. there was a guy from voc rehab there, but he didn’t talk to : me — the judge asked him, based on what he had heard, did he think i : was a good candidate for vocational retraining, and he said no — that : was all she wrote. : : the only things i’d say would be common sense — be polite, even if the : judge is a jerk, answer his or her questions courteously, don’t think : that if you go off on them, they’ll be more likely to approve you, they : won’t, they’ll just be more likely to take offense at you. : : if you have a lawyer, and s/he is a social security disability expert, : let the lawyer handle whatever the judge lets him/her handle. if you’re : going alone, i really don’t knwo — bring a list of your symptoms, a : list of your doctors, clinics, etc. — even if they’ve been provided : previously, having a list of them in case anything was left out is a : good idea. : : other than that, all i can do is wish you luck, and i’m wishing it for : you! : rose : Hello, I’ve had M.S. for over 20 years. But I never thought of quitting working – I loved my job, the money was great, and I got to travel. In April of 2000, I had a really terrible fall that tore open my internal organs. Long story short, I never made it back to work, and the MS went to Secondary Progressive. I also have some pretty serious heart complications, and high blood pressure and diabetes type stuff and gobs of other stuff wrong with me. I was on over a dozen medicines daily! The hospital that I was in had me fill out the application for disability – I would never have thought of it. I’ve never known anyone who was on it. Since then, as with the other 70% for first time applicants, I was denied flatly. And with the other 85% of folks who don’t give up, but ask for a Reconsideration, I was turned down flat. So I got a S.S. Disability attorney, and we requested a hearing. The appeal with the judge is Friday. I have learned many things over these long, difficult years – about the system and how to use the advantages. What I know that I know is an applicant must have written proofs, such as medical test results. I had 4 doctors who wrote letters saying I was disabled back 3 years ago when I first applied. But they were thrown out – I was told that a doctor is not a vocational expert and cannot make a disability determination. They can only report facts, such as test results. When my SSD attorney saw my medical records he said: this is 300 pages of bla, bla, bla. We only get 59 minutes in front of the judge. And he proceeded to "start over" getting the doctors, and therapists to write very specific language. So last time I had a very good case by MY standards and it went no where. This time, I have a pretty good case by THEIR standards. Also, I am older, which helps a person get approved, and have more than one illness documented. If I didn’t know the system at all, I’d say I’d win it this time. But knowing the system, nothing is sure. I now know that the judge has (and relishes) total power and we have to feed him what he wants, how and when he wants it. Of all the Administrative Appeals Hearing Judges in Tennessee, the guy I was assigned to is considered the toughest – so who knows. I do know that the judge has up to six months to make their decision, and if approved, up to 6 months to make the back-payments after that. So even IF I am approved, it could be a long wait before I get the 75% of whatever is available. (25% to attorney) I think the maximum is 24 months back pay – and they hold back 5 months as a deductible. So they still haven’t gotten into a person’s pocket unless they take longer than 29 months to make a ruling. Start to finish will have been about 5 years – for what common sense would have approved the first time…however, rather than griping about what I’ve missed, I’ll just be grateful if/when it is finally settled. But thanks for being kind. Rebecca http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO.

hi rebecca, is this the hearing after your 2nd turn-down, with the judge and the doctors and voc rehab rep all gathered in a little courtroom? DO you have a lawyer? i went through the soc-sec application process on my own, but after the 2nd turndown and requirement for a hearing, i got a social-security attorney for the hearing, and was approved immediately. i don’t know if he (my attorney) had as much to do with the approval as the doctor they had there to testify — she was wonderful. a neurologist with a lot of knowledge about M.S. she (the doctor) told the judge that she would find me disabled based on M.S. fatigue alone, even without the other physical problems i was having. getting a doc at the hearing who is knowledgeable about M.S. is a BIG factor — i would imagine there are many more of them these days than there were when i applied, nearly 10 years ago. since i did have a lawyer there with me, i let him handle things for the most part, till they asked me to testify and the judge had some questions. there was a guy from voc rehab there, but he didn’t talk to me — the judge asked him, based on what he had heard, did he think i was a good candidate for vocational retraining, and he said no — that was all she wrote. the only things i’d say would be common sense — be polite, even if the judge is a jerk, answer his or her questions courteously, don’t think that if you go off on them, they’ll be more likely to approve you, they won’t, they’ll just be more likely to take offense at you. if you have a lawyer, and s/he is a social security disability expert, let the lawyer handle whatever the judge lets him/her handle. if you’re going alone, i really don’t knwo — bring a list of your symptoms, a list of your doctors, clinics, etc. — even if they’ve been provided previously, having a list of them in case anything was left out is a good idea. other than that, all i can do is wish you luck, and i’m wishing it for you! rose

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"Mortgage.Author" wrote in message

news:3EIUd.37485$Rl5.33117@bignews4.bellsouth.net… MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30,

Good luck. I hope everything goes your way. Jodi

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news:3EIUd.37485$Rl5.33117@bignews4.bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Laura" wrote in message > news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… > : Mortgage.Author wrote: > : > That site was great – thanks! It gave all the facts about winning > social > : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, > how > much > : > money, what not to do, etc. > : > > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN > IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. > THANK YOU, > REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

Do you have an attorney? Rob

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mortgage.Author wrote: > "Laura" wrote in message > news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… > : Mortgage.Author wrote: > : > That site was great – thanks! It gave all the facts about winning > social > : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how > much > : > money, what not to do, etc. > : > > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. > IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) > THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, > TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. > THANK YOU, > REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

I stand by my statement. For the person of average intelligence and contact with the world it gives you no more information than they already know..

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is > : crap folks..don’t bother. > AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – > PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL > DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW > THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND > THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? > DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? > I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN > THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS.

Well, really … that’s the most important thing. I looked at the site and I found things that I didn’t know, either. Contrary to some opinions, the issue isn’t "contact with the world" nor "average intelligence." It’s whether or not one has had the time, need and/or opportunity to familiarize oneself with this information. I haven’t. Good luck with your hearing. It sounds like you’ve been pursuing this for a long time. Kathie

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"Laura" wrote in message

news:bs-dnXmLqZqv14LfRVn-gw@wideopenwest.com… : Mortgage.Author wrote:

: > That site was great – thanks! It gave all the facts about winning social : > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much : > money, what not to do, etc. : > : right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is : crap folks..don’t bother. AND THIS IS WHY I DON’T POST – PEOPLE BEING CYNICAL AND HATEFUL DO YOU FEEL BETTER NOW THAT YOU HAVE INSULTED ME AND THE VERY THOROUGH SITE FROM EXPERTS? DID YOU GO INTO THE STORIES SECTION AND Q&A? I DID LEARN FROM THAT SITE – MANY THINGS – AND THAT IS AFTER I HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AND DOING SS DISABILITY APPEALS FOR 3 YEARS. IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT INSULTING, MY HEARING IS (FINALLY) THIS FRIDAY AT 1:30, AND I’D BENEFIT FROM KNOWING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, TIPS AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO. THANK YOU, REBECCA FROM NASHVILLE http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic

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Mortgage.Author wrote: > That site was great – thanks! It gave all the facts about winning social > security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much > money, what not to do, etc.

right..apparently you have been using hallucinogenics.. this site is crap folks..don’t bother.

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That site was great – thanks! It gave all the facts about winning social security disability – including what kind of illnesses, the timing, how much money, what not to do, etc. — http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Messianic "KKT" wrote in message

news:42065379$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net… : As I was looking for something else, I found this site: : : http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/ : : It says: : : The purpose of this site is to distribute : information—crucial information that, nine times : out of ten, it’s impossible to get from the person : taking your claim for Disability and ssi benefits. : In essence, applying for disability and ssi benefits : might as well be a secret process since Social : Security does not try to make this information : clear or even understandable. : : I haven’t read much of it, so I can’t vouch for the information, but : perhaps someone with more experience with the process can comment on it. : : Kathie

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As I was looking for something else, I found this site: http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/ It says: The purpose of this site is to distribute information—crucial information that, nine times out of ten, it’s impossible to get from the person taking your claim for Disability and ssi benefits. In essence, applying for disability and ssi benefits might as well be a secret process since Social Security does not try to make this information clear or even understandable. I haven’t read much of it, so I can’t vouch for the information, but perhaps someone with more experience with the process can comment on it. Kathie

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newbie – old guy – chronic ibs

admin — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Oh and I forgot to add: "Atrobel tablets are used for the treatment of pylorospasm", which is a spasm of the colon and it can either cause retention of wind, (colic), or diarrhoea. — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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In article , Clarence Crow wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:42:12 -0800, REP wrote: > > > >The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and > >hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of > >Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine > >is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help > >with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, > >much worse. Much much much much much worse. > Seeing your condition is the opposite of mine and doesn’t have so many > sources of pain to deal with, you haven’t really offered me a viable > alternative.

You were complaining of constipation and listing off anticholinergic medicines that you take. I wasn’t offering you an alternative. I was merely telling you that you you were self-medicating with drugs that cause constipation. If you take anticholinergic drugs, espeically a great many of them at your age, expect to be constipated. As for what kind of pain I have to deal with, I didn’t go into that as it is irrelevant to your constipation, but just let’s say I’d get down on my hands and knees and weep with joy if my problems were so few in number. — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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In article , Clarence Crow wrote: > I’m m.69.au and IBS rules my day. (colic and constipation) > I found something called Fiorinal > Anagesic-Relaxant in the chemist’s (pharmacy) drugs. > This helps me get 5-6 hrs sleep, but during the week I only have > constipated motions even when using the Granocol. > An additional relaxant I use is also Atrobel (Hyoscine and Atropine). > Come Fridays, I have a "big night out" on Magnesium Oxide Colon > Cleanse to de-toxify my week’s accumulation. > Anyone in this group have any pointers (no snake-oil please)?

The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, much worse. Much much much much much worse. Fiber does work for most people with constipation, and most find that starting with a small dose and gradually increasing the size over a few weeks causes the least discomfort. Eating things like sweet potatoes is helpful, too, if your diabetic management plan allows you to eat them. I have the exact opposite problem and take a large amount of Lomotil to attempt to slow things down, so I’m afraid I don’t have any first-hand experience with constipation, but I do know my antiperistalsis agents! — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:42:12 -0800, REP wrote: > >The drugs you are taking are constipating: Fiorinal contains codeine and >hycosine and atropine (along with belladonna) are the main components of >Donnatol, a medicine prescribed to halt cramping and diarrhea (atropine >is also in Lotomil, another anti-diarrheal). While these drugs may help >with any cramping (‘colic’), they’ll just make the constipation much, >much worse. Much much much much much worse. >

I’m aware of the Codiene content in Fiorinal but I DO have PAIN to deal with from 3 sources by the time I’m ready for bed. I’m not aware of any Hyoscine and Atropine (Belladonna) in Fiorinal. The packet states: Paracetemol 500mg Codiene Phosphate 8mg Doxylamine Succinate 5 mg The Atrobel, I’ll grant you does say it helps to dry up gastric fluid secretion. The bottle states: Hyoscyamine Hydrobromide 92.5 microgram Atropine Sulfate 13.5 microgram Hyoscine Hydrobromide 9.9 microgram (I’m told it’s similar to Buscopan, which was originally prescribed for me by a GP). Seeing your condition is the opposite of mine and doesn’t have so many sources of pain to deal with, you haven’t really offered me a viable alternative. Really, what I need, are suggestions from someone who mirrors my condition, if such a being exists on this planet Thanks again for re-iterating what others have told me from time to time, but it was the the GPs and Pharmacists who suggested my current medications. — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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Hello group When I found this group by googling around, I was surprised to see so few posts in it, seeing the large percentage of IBS sufferers in the world I’m m.69.au and IBS rules my day. (colic and constipation) However, after numerous "white knuckle" barium enemas dating back from the ’80s, plus several other "….scopies" , my Gastro-Enterologist, slammed down the lid on his laptop computer, effecting closure for him, and muttered…"you have mild diverticulae in the transverse, descending and sigmoid colon, and you seem to be stressful and in need of a good FART!…..here’s a scrip for some Amitryptiline, and they may help you….pay the receptionist on the way out" ($180.00). Also my GP told me to get into the fibre and prescribed some granocol. The Amitryptilyne worked but made me doughy-headed for the next day and mostly useless for work. The fibre bloated me more. The granocol helped a little. As I have a few other pain causing ailments, like osteo-arthritis in both feet, ankles and R knee, plus Peripheral Neuropathy in both feet from Diabetes Type 2, I found something called Fiorinal Anagesic-Relaxant in the chemist’s (pharmacy) drugs. This helps me get 5-6 hrs sleep, but during the week I only have constipated motions even when using the Granocol. An additional relaxant I use is also Atrobel (Hyoscine and Atropine). Come Fridays, I have a "big night out" on Magnesium Oxide Colon Cleanse to de-toxify my week’s accumulation. Anyone in this group have any pointers (no snake-oil please)? — "if you can see it coming, head it off at the pass, else put the wagons in a circle" — Please reply to this ng as: — my email adress is 100% faked to prevent proliferation of SPAM!! — Regards — Clarence Crow

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Thanks from Mr. Bill

admin — Tue, 02 Mar 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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think it would behoove the medical field to make home testing for PSA levels available so we could all test much more frequently than once every year or six months?

I ran a google search on the terms "PSA home test", and from reading a few hits, it appears that these are available from various vendors for about $39.00 per test. Some require a prescription. (NY patients) Has anyone in this group used one of these tests? Ernie Gudath 65 PSA 4.3 3/03; 5.6 5/03 Biopsy 1 5/14/03 ambiguous Biopsy 2 9/18/03 T1c Gleason 6 (3+3) Scans Negative RRP 12/11/03 Gleason 6, w/slight marginal, other tissues negative PSA <.1 2/04

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I bought a home PSA test at a drug store for $29 and my daughter, who is a nurse, stuck my finger and put the blood sample in the little devise and it indicated that my PSA was nil. I knew I was to have a PSA test at the clinic the following week and that test said I was 44. I mentioned this to my urologist and he looked at me like I would be a good man to sell a used car to. Lewis Hender

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Thanks to all of you for the input and advice. All of it was very informative. My blood sugars ran very high for eighteen years and I have lost most of my vision. I am paying the price for my indulgences unlike you men who got this through no fault of your own. I wish all of you well through your struggle. At least since I have been lurking here for a few months now I am well informed on certain options in case I get this. Do you think it would behoove the medical field to make home testing for PSA levels available so we could all test much more frequently than once every year or six months? Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <<<<<<< The Worlds Uncensored News Source <<<<<<<<

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Hey Bill; Just thought I’d pass this along for what it’s worth. I also have diabetes – type 2 and pretty much under control just by diet. There is alot of good information on diabetes located at Alt.Support.Diabetes.UK I realize that this is a Brittish site, but those who post there are very knowledgeable, helpful and there is just enough of the Brit humor(humour) to make it interesting. I never got much out the diabetes site here in the US, but the blokes across the pond were quite helpful when I was first DX. As far as home testing of PSA goes, I’m not sure how the lab end of that would work out without a Dr being involved somehow, but it might be worth looking into. Take care and g’luck M8 (:) Age – 68 8/12/02 – PSA 3.7 10/13/03 – PSA 4.69 11/11/03 – PSA 4.8 11/18/03 – Biopsy – 10 cores one core-25% of core-Gleason 4+4=8 all other cores benign tissue 12/10/03 – Consult – Oncologist 12/16/03 – Consult – Radiation Oncologist Treatment Plan – HT – started 12/17/03 – Eulixen & Lupron 2/10/04 – Started – Flowmax and Megastrol Radiation – IMRT to begin 3/14/04 – for 5 weeks Theraseed implant after Radiation completed

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Where is everyone?

admin — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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it’s not a diet, it’s a WOL, so there is no escape! :p

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The diet works, they’ve lost weight and moved on of course :) Peter I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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It’s summer

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I noticed the original post came from WebTV. Someone in another newsgroup complained that they suddenly could only see posts from other WebTV users. That may be the problem here too. Sounds pretty stupid if its something WebTV did intentionally. Then again, maybe they’re trying to get a few customers to quit. says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -it’s not a diet, it’s a WOL, so there is no escape! :p The diet works, they’ve lost weight and moved on of course :) Peter I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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Personally, I just sit on the sidelines these days. Flash – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

well, I’m here but I’ve been trying to be quiet, reading Lyle’s book and ploughing through some`120,000 unread posts in my MFW file… and I’ve been rather busy ( !! ) expending my time and energies in _that other_ way… I’m also rediscovering The Joy Of Squats. Joy? I_hate_ em, but they bust every stall like dynamite up a mule breeder’s stable…. (er, domkey? ass? Wrecked ‘em.. ) But I’ve been quiet for too long. I’ve got more experimental data and unproven wisdom to impart and cause further threadwobbling upset. I’m coming back, me, to inflict myself on the group just ‘cos I owe it so much for getting me back on track

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Borg Buddy!!!!!! Welcome back, ya nut! — Bird 170/143/125 5′2" Info about the Lowcarb Get-together in St. Louis: http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/stlouis.html Join us September 14-16! Lowcarb Stories to Warm the Heart: http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/stories.html JOIN US on the Undernet #lowcarb Channel! http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/irc.html for info

| | But I’ve been quiet for too long. I’ve got more experimental data and | unproven wisdom to impart and cause further threadwobbling upset. I’m coming | back, me, to inflict myself on the group just ‘cos I owe it so much for | getting me back on track |

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It’s summer

Yup! And for the first time in a long time, I’m NOT avoiding going out and doing things! Plus, I’m working on my portfolio, my website, and various projects…busy busy!

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I just lurk here once in a while now. It’s easier that way. Jaime – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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The diet works, they’ve lost weight and moved on of course :) Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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I only have 466 posts , for 2 + years there has always been 1500 posts , are the low carbers quitting or have a lot moved to a different site? Just curious. Fran

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Me too Jo. My legs are getting stiff I’ve been sitting here so long. Scarlet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I just pulled it up after 2.5 days off and have over 1000 posts. There goes my morning! LOL! I’m on OE5. Jo Just pulled up the low carb newsgroup & there’s nothing there! Anyone else having problems with AOL? Must be because of that new merger! Guess the service will be worse than ever. Have been having problems with original posts missing for some time! — Carrie in VA Started Atkins 6/1/99 236/203//155

– MZ

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Just pulled up the low carb newsgroup & there’s nothing there! Anyone else having problems with AOL? Must be because of that new merger! Guess the service will be worse than ever. Have been having problems with original posts missing for some time! — Carrie in VA Started Atkins 6/1/99 236/203//155

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same here. can’t pull up more than 20 posts. try www.remarq.com. aol is having a bellyache-tto many carbs maybe(lol) i emailed them to find out what the problem is, still no reply. Debbie

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Geez, I just pulled it up after 2.5 days off and have over 1000 posts. There goes my morning! LOL! I’m on OE5. Jo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just pulled up the low carb newsgroup & there’s nothing there! Anyone else having problems with AOL? Must be because of that new merger! Guess the service will be worse than ever. Have been having problems with original posts missing for some time! — Carrie in VA Started Atkins 6/1/99 236/203//155

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knowledgable about praxiology, laid all comity aside and shouted: Geez, I just pulled it up after 2.5 days off and have over 1000 posts. There goes my morning! LOL! I’m on OE5. Jo

I know I’m not getting all the posts, which is actually kind of a relief…I mean, I’m still getting 300 or so a day, which is about as many as I can handle! Cheryl Started Atkins Induction 01/11/00. Don’t own a scale, don’t know what my weight is starting out, and don’t care. Tried everything else and just wanna feel better.

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Is anyone posting anything? I seem to have lost all connection with every newsgroup I sub to. This is freaky. Just looked you guys up and indeed google/deja only claims to have messages dated up til and including the 2/11? It is now the 4/11 here. Please reply if you see this! Carol Ann? Any regs? Email me if I am getting through and let me know how active it is or if it is dead and all is well LOL Thanks Rayvyn!

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:: Is anyone posting anything? :: I seem to have lost all connection with every newsgroup I sub to. :: This is freaky. :: Just looked you guys up and indeed google/deja only claims to have :: messages dated up til and including the 2/11? :: It is now the 4/11 here. :: Please reply if you see this! :: Carol Ann? Any regs? Email me if I am getting through and let me know :: how active it is or if it is dead and all is well LOL :: :: Thanks Rayvyn! Hi, Rayvyn! I’m here, I’m here!!! From what I can see (I tend not to read as much these days) there are many of the "oldies" here! I’ll try to read and post more!!! ~Carol Ann www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge

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Postings have been slower than usual but there were still a couple hundred the past couple days. I attribute the asdl-c slowdown to Halloween Candy remorse.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is anyone posting anything? I seem to have lost all connection with every newsgroup I sub to. This is freaky. Just looked you guys up and indeed google/deja only claims to have messages dated up til and including the 2/11? It is now the 4/11 here. Please reply if you see this! Carol Ann? Any regs? Email me if I am getting through and let me know how active it is or if it is dead and all is well LOL Thanks Rayvyn!

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Rayvyn, .. I see your message.. no problem whether you’ll see the response or not.. that’s the question. We are indeed here.. the board is busy, busy , busy.. Lots of Newbies.. Lots of regulars.. and Lots of Veterans . I was gone for a day and a half.. and had to download 1045 headers. Hope you can see the board soon. ~Karen~ Is anyone posting anything? I seem to have lost all connection with every newsgroup I sub to. This is freaky. Just looked you guys up and indeed google/deja only claims to have messages dated up til and including the 2/11? It is now the 4/11 here. Please reply if you see this! Carol Ann? Any regs? Email me if I am getting through and let me know how active it is or if it is dead and all is well LOL Thanks Rayvyn!

~Karen~ 225/188/140ish start Jan17/03 Started at the gym September/03

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everyone is pretty much here. there hasn’t been a whole lot of posts that interest me right now so I mostly read a few and post a few. — Lori 220/145/135 LC since 1/17/03 Nov Challenge 145/140 http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

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I attribute the asdl-c slowdown to Halloween Candy remorse.

Jenny, I was thinking this same thing yesterday! I know *I* was guilty. I went off my plan, first with a dinner at the home of friends late Friday night (beef bourguinon on buttered noodles, sigh!), and then snarfing some of the kids’ trick or treat candy yesterday. I paid dearly for my sins by being up most of last night with heartburn and the runs. It was, really and truly, a relief to get back on plan today. – Anne

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I attribute the asdl-c slowdown to Halloween Candy remorse.

did you plan this cheat? if not, then how did it happen? and then snarfing some of the kids’ trick or treat candy yesterday.

Why not just plan ahead and get some LC candy to keep for you to help you avoid your kids candy? that’s what I do I ask this becos I have eaten a few things out of my ordinary routine but I didn’t call it cheating. I bought a tiny little round cheesecake, about 2 1/2 in in diameter for my birthday, stuck a candle in it, sand HBTme and shared is with my kids. (DH was working until 8pm so he didn’t get any

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did you plan this cheat? if not, then how did it happen?

No. I had a glass of wine and it was late and I’d had a very protein-light salad at home at around 5:15 in all the rush of getting my son ready for trick-or-treating, the jack-o-lanterns lit, blah blah… so I was very hungry and tired by the time we were sitting down to eat around 9 pm with our friends. I started eating just the beef and vegetables, but… I just caved. No excuses; it was a lapse in a weak moment. Why not just plan ahead and get some LC candy to keep for you to help you avoid your kids candy? that’s what I do

Nothing can compete with an honest-to-goodness Reese’s p.b. cup! especially in multiples. 8-/ I bought a tiny little round cheesecake, about 2 1/2 in in diameter for my birthday, stuck a candle in it, sand HBTme and shared is with my kids.

This is good to remember. My birthday is in less than 2 weeks, and my DH will be out of town that day on business, so it will also be just me and the kids. I ask these ?s becos I am curious, not to pick on you or anything like that.

I know, Lori — thanks for the suggestions! I’m glad you are back on-plan and feeling better

ME TOO! – Anne

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Thanks for your reply and to all the others. I seem to have returned from the twillight zone now! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rayvyn, .. I see your message.. no problem whether you’ll see the response or not.. that’s the question. We are indeed here.. the board is busy, busy , busy.. Lots of Newbies.. Lots of regulars.. and Lots of Veterans . I was gone for a day and a half.. and had to download 1045 headers. Hope you can see the board soon. ~Karen~ Is anyone posting anything? I seem to have lost all connection with every newsgroup I sub to. This is freaky. Just looked you guys up and indeed google/deja only claims to have messages dated up til and including the 2/11? It is now the 4/11 here. Please reply if you see this! Carol Ann? Any regs? Email me if I am getting through and let me know how active it is or if it is dead and all is well LOL Thanks Rayvyn! ~Karen~ 225/188/140ish start Jan17/03 Started at the gym September/03

– Rayvyn Shadow-Black Melbourne, Australia