Diabetes Talking

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http://www.emmonsguitar.com/  these were supposed to be the Rolls Royce of steels at one time. I don’t know anymore. They definitely ain’t cheap. But, for sound (I think) they can’t be beat.   Kevin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog. It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while. In which case my oblique sarcasm was misplaced and I apologise. Ok, I have some experience with the pedal steel. I grew up with country music and loved those sounds, then found a homemade one for $100 … and fought with it for a year, then bought a low end, Showbud "Sidekick" 10 string three pedal and two knee-lever model. That’s what you really need to do standard country music.  The doublenecks are for jazzier western-style stuff.  Here’s the deal with Pedal Steels:  They are machines, not traditional instruments, so the mechanics become crucial to sounding decent.  Therefore most cheap ones don’t hold tune very well. I fought with that Sidekick for two years before giving up.  It retailed for $299 in 1973, so adjusting for inflation, you’re going to have to spend some serious bucks to get something better, so expense is an issue!   Of course you also don’t have frets, so a quick ear is also crucial to sounding good. People talk about Jerry Garcia’s steel work, but he was NOT a good steel player … he was borderline competent and had some cool ideas. I recommend getting a ‘lap steel’ .  Decent ones can be had for about the price of a cheap electric guitar … it’s a starting point! Shobud, there is a name I was trying to recall, but couldn’t. Yep, they are mechanical contrivances. Sort of the helicopter to airplane analogy type of thing. Airplanes fly, helicopters try to mechanically beat the air into submission. I imagine a decent pedal steel would cost quite a bit, even used. Maybe I’ll just keep an eye open for a bargain and forget about buying one at fair market value. I appreciate the comments. Mojo

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Looks like you can get a dual neck Emmons starting at $3200.00 or $2400.00 for a single neck if you buy direct from the factory.   Kevin

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Turns out they sell used steels too. See this page: http://www.emmonsguitar.com/pages/usedlist.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looks like you can get a dual neck Emmons starting at $3200.00 or $2400.00 for a single neck if you buy direct from the factory.   Kevin

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I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale.

You might find more if you spelled "pedal steel" correctly. Check ebay.

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I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale.

Here are a coupla’ places: http://www.steelguitar.com/ http://www.mullenguitars.com/ I don’t know much about pedal steels… played with enough pedal steel guys (and some were/are real monsters), but never played one myself. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mojo

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says… I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale.

Hmmm, … http://rockdiamond.com/pedal/lamar.html http://www.steelguitar.com/ http://www.steelguitarinfo.com/infoindex.html http://www.steelguitarcanada.com/steels/steeluse.htm http://www.psga.org/pages/ads.html http://www.guitarbasics.com/guitar/buy/steel_guitars.htm You could ask where I found these, but you may prefer not to. Oh, and of course, … wwww.ebay.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale. Here are a coupla’ places: http://www.steelguitar.com/ http://www.mullenguitars.com/ I don’t know much about pedal steels… played with enough pedal steel guys (and some were/are real monsters), but never played one myself. Mojo

Thanks. Will give those sites a look. Mojo

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I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale. You might find more if you spelled "pedal steel" correctly. Check ebay.

Doh! Thanks. Mojo

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I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog. It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while. Thanks for your help. Mojo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale. Hmmm, … http://rockdiamond.com/pedal/lamar.html http://www.steelguitar.com/ http://www.steelguitarinfo.com/infoindex.html http://www.steelguitarcanada.com/steels/steeluse.htm http://www.psga.org/pages/ads.html http://www.guitarbasics.com/guitar/buy/steel_guitars.htm You could ask where I found these, but you may prefer not to. Oh, and of course, … wwww.ebay.com

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I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog

I am sorry to hear that, Mojo. My dad was diagnosed with diabetes. He was given some pills and a diet, told if that didn’t do it, he would move on to shots. He went the ruskie Way of The Garlic. No garlic pills. Raw cloves. A few pieces a day. He got a clean bill of health, ate his ice cream, drank some beer, the rest of his life, all the while keeping up with the garlic. Ancecdotal. But posting this reminds me to eat it everyday. I hope you lick it. At the very least, put it on the run. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while. Thanks for your help. Mojo

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says… I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog. It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while.

In which case my oblique sarcasm was misplaced and I apologise.

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says… I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog. It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while. In which case my oblique sarcasm was misplaced and I apologise.

Ok, I have some experience with the pedal steel. I grew up with country music and loved those sounds, then found a homemade one for $100 … and fought with it for a year, then bought a low end, Showbud "Sidekick" 10 string three pedal and two knee-lever model. That’s what you really need to do standard country music.  The doublenecks are for jazzier western-style stuff.  Here’s the deal with Pedal Steels:  They are machines, not traditional instruments, so the mechanics become crucial to sounding decent.  Therefore most cheap ones don’t hold tune very well. I fought with that Sidekick for two years before giving up.  It retailed for $299 in 1973, so adjusting for inflation, you’re going to have to spend some serious bucks to get something better, so expense is an issue!   Of course you also don’t have frets, so a quick ear is also crucial to sounding good. People talk about Jerry Garcia’s steel work, but he was NOT a good steel player … he was borderline competent and had some cool ideas. I recommend getting a ‘lap steel’ .  Decent ones can be had for about the price of a cheap electric guitar … it’s a starting point!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… I am diabetic and have poor vision, Nog. It is easy to look right at something and not see what is there. Especially after I have been staring at the screen for a while. In which case my oblique sarcasm was misplaced and I apologise. Ok, I have some experience with the pedal steel. I grew up with country music and loved those sounds, then found a homemade one for $100 … and fought with it for a year, then bought a low end, Showbud "Sidekick" 10 string three pedal and two knee-lever model. That’s what you really need to do standard country music.  The doublenecks are for jazzier western-style stuff.  Here’s the deal with Pedal Steels:  They are machines, not traditional instruments, so the mechanics become crucial to sounding decent.  Therefore most cheap ones don’t hold tune very well. I fought with that Sidekick for two years before giving up.  It retailed for $299 in 1973, so adjusting for inflation, you’re going to have to spend some serious bucks to get something better, so expense is an issue!   Of course you also don’t have frets, so a quick ear is also crucial to sounding good. People talk about Jerry Garcia’s steel work, but he was NOT a good steel player … he was borderline competent and had some cool ideas. I recommend getting a ‘lap steel’ .  Decent ones can be had for about the price of a cheap electric guitar … it’s a starting point!

Shobud, there is a name I was trying to recall, but couldn’t. Yep, they are mechanical contrivances. Sort of the helicopter to airplane analogy type of thing. Airplanes fly, helicopters try to mechanically beat the air into submission. I imagine a decent pedal steel would cost quite a bit, even used. Maybe I’ll just keep an eye open for a bargain and forget about buying one at fair market value. I appreciate the comments. Mojo

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I’ve always wanted a peddle steel guitar. Does anyone have any idea of where to find one? I’ve looked via Google, but don’t see much about actually finding one for sale. Mojo

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