Mu and My Personal and Professional Experience With The Two Pound Diet

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intellectual stimulation because this SUPPORT group is so dull, take it to a disscusion group but otherwise ‘when in Rome’. OK. I’ll leave Rome to the mindless mob.

Typical. When you actually practice what you preach regarding reason and discussion like an adult we’ll talk again. — revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html "I think you bent the needle on my irony meter. I’m not really sure, though, because the case is busy arcing and the entire unit appears to be melting and burning a hole in the lab bench." – John S. Novak III

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Crossposted with purpose to: <alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea lth.diabetes,alt.support.diet Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike. I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating. John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician. The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness. I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. To Dr Chung: Thanks! Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

You are welcome. Glad to have been able to help you. Thank you for your *positive* testimonial. God Bless, Andrew — Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – announced in front of God and everybody: Would you care to give us a real e-mail address and more information on who you are and where you’re located? No I would not. This would go a long way towards convincing people that you’re not just more of the same psycho Chung/Roose Usenet machine. People can and will make decisions. Dr. Chung posted his personal information and did that gain him any additional credibility? No it did not on the alt.diet groups. Credibility is not my issue, it yours. Handle it like you please. Actually, credibility is entirely your issue since you presented yourself as some sort of character witness for Chung and Roose. You even offered your name and information about where you went to school. Yet now you refuse to support your claims about your own identity. Nice try, Chung. Ain’t workin.’ And the more you post, the more you write like your old self again. You’re not very good at this. Why do you insist on continuting? Dawn

Because it is getting near full moon and all the nuts come out when the moon is full. Roxan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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intellectual stimulation because this SUPPORT group is so dull, take it to a disscusion group but otherwise ‘when in Rome’.

OK. I’ll leave Rome to the mindless mob.

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Hi Dawn, Medical schools turn out more than doctors. :-) Nurses and nurse practitioners come to mind. Mu went to UT med school and he’s not a doctor. Take care, Carmen

Out of curiosity Carmen, I know you’re the local ASDLC info seeker (which is very helpful, I might add), especially when it comes to uprooting trolls that just post under different names – *but* I’m having a hard time buying that Mu went to Med School. How did you find this out for sure (as I know that you would not just take his word for it)? Is it the whole Mu/Chung correlation that’s always floating around? I try to stay away from those posts, so I apologize if you have already answered this before. I also hope you don’t take this as a start of a flame war or something, I’m just curious. TIA, Beth V 216/165/145 LC since 1/17/03

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announced in front of God and everybody: Hi Dawn, You claim to have attended Memphis State Uuniversity, Rhodes College and the U. of Tenn. medical school. Yet there’s no Dr. Mel (or Melvin) Hall listed working as a physician in Tennessee. Medical schools turn out more than doctors. :-) Nurses and nurse practitioners come to mind.

Oh, I realize this. It was just the easiest, quickest thing to search for. He/she could have also gone to school in Tenn. then gone on to practice in another state, too. It was mostly just a statement on which to hang my request for more information. I expected to be rebuffed, since this new sockpuppet isn’t who he/she claims to be, and I was. Chung really sucks at this. Mu went to UT med school and he’s not a doctor.

If he indeed went to school at all. I’ve yet to see a reason to believe anything that Mu/Roose says about himself. Dawn — REVIEW: "Freaky Friday" http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=19561 DAILY DOSE OF HUMDRUM: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dtaylor

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Gentleman? Never having been acquainted with either of them, I wouldn’t know. Nor is that the point. If you have looked at the body of Mu/Chung-related postings, you see that the bulk of the criticism and mocking has related to the 2 pound diet and to Mu and to Chung personally, not to the off-topic nature of the posts. The parallels are clear and my message was a call for reason. But, I guess one can lead a fool to knowledge, but you can’t make him think. Yes, this is a support group for LC. So knock yourself out! First, killfile me and you won’t be burdened with my perspective anymore. Then, you can get back to reading about the 10th person this month to ask about Ketostix, the 5th person to discover LC options at Wendy’s and the 99th person in a stall.

And if you’d use some of that ‘reason’ you claim we fools lack, you’d have realized that the Chung/Mu phenom is old hat around here just as much as the posts you complain about above. If you feel the need for intellectual stimulation because this SUPPORT group is so dull, take it to a disscusion group but otherwise ‘when in Rome’. — revek www.geocities.com/tanirevk/LowCarb.html A rant a day keeps the white coats away. -KellyAnn

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Yes, this is a support group for LC. So knock yourself out! First, killfile me and you won’t be burdened with my perspective anymore. Then, you can get back to reading about the 10th person this month to ask about Ketostix, the 5th person to discover LC options at Wendy’s and the 99th person in a stall.

So that’s what we’d be left with if your "perspective" was removed, eh?

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And yet you post this using a non-existant, anonymous e-mail address.

I sure do. Whether me email address is valid or not is not of consequence to whether my posts are relevant and relative. You claim to have attended Memphis State Uuniversity,

Yes, that is right. Rhodes College

No, Mu went there. and the U. of Tenn. medical school. Yet there’s no Dr. Mel (or Melvin) Hall listed working as a physician in Tennessee.

I am not in Tennessee and my name is Mary Ellen Hall (Mel for short). Would you care to give us a real e-mail address and more information on who you are and where you’re located?

No I would not. This would go a long way towards convincing people that you’re not just more of the same psycho Chung/Roose Usenet machine.

People can and will make decisions. Dr. Chung posted his personal information and did that gain him any additional credibility? No it did not on the alt.diet groups. Credibility is not my issue, it yours. Handle it like you please. Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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People can and will make decisions. Dr. Chung posted his personal information and did that gain him any additional credibility? No it did not on the alt.diet groups.

He lost credibility with me because he continually cross-posts unwanted non-low-carb diet information on a low-carb group and harangues people who ask him not to. This is unprofessional in the extreme. I have to assume he has other bad habits. You have joined him in my KF. As far as I am concerned, you -are- him with another nym. — 382/374/200 Concerned about Atkins’? July 25, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/hgcx — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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: Crossposted with purpose to: : : <alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea l th.diabetes,alt.support.diet : : Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of : Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical : advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. : I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical : newsgroups. first off, the first two and last NG’s you list (crossposted to) are not medical groups, they’re support groups, hence the word support in the string… <snipo : First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . you’re kidding, Right? <snipo again : John : may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring : physician. you ‘did’ marry him didn’t you? must have thought he was good enough for you at one point of your life… <snipo some more : : As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to : 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. i can tell you something about him, during the last few months MU has been a very bad boy… : : To Dr Chung: Thanks! what did Dr. Chung do? make you eat less?

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announced in front of God and everybody: Would you care to give us a real e-mail address and more information on who you are and where you’re located? No I would not. This would go a long way towards convincing people that you’re not just more of the same psycho Chung/Roose Usenet machine. People can and will make decisions. Dr. Chung posted his personal information and did that gain him any additional credibility? No it did not on the alt.diet groups. Credibility is not my issue, it yours. Handle it like you please.

Actually, credibility is entirely your issue since you presented yourself as some sort of character witness for Chung and Roose. You even offered your name and information about where you went to school. Yet now you refuse to support your claims about your own identity. Nice try, Chung. Ain’t workin.’ And the more you post, the more you write like your old self again. You’re not very good at this. Why do you insist on continuting? Dawn

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Toad Alert Bob L.

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<alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea l th.diabetes,alt.support.diet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike. I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating. John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician. The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness. I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. To Dr Chung: Thanks! Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If there had been Usenet newsgroups in the 1970s when Dr. Atkins began propounding his low-carb diet, he would have received the same reception that Dr. Chung has received here. History will show, one way or the her. — Scott — We’ve all seen enough history of trolls that don’t have the courtesy to respect the newgroup charter. This is a suppost group for LC. For those that want to advocate other diets or engage in debate, you can start your own newgroup. Don’t compare these trolls to Dr. Atkins. Unlike the trolls, he was a gentleman with manners. Since 4/28/03: 228/200/165, Atkins Phase 2 Crossposted with purpose to:

<alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea l – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – th.diabetes,alt.support.diet Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike. I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating. John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician. The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness. I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. To Dr Chung: Thanks! Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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If there had been Usenet newsgroups in the 1970s when Dr. Atkins began propounding his low-carb diet, he would have received the same reception that Dr. Chung has received here. History will show, one way or the her. — Scott — Since 4/28/03: 228/200/165, Atkins Phase 2

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We’ve all seen enough history of trolls that don’t have the courtesy to respect the newgroup charter. This is a suppost group for LC. For those that want to advocate other diets or engage in debate, you can start your own newgroup. Don’t compare these trolls to Dr. Atkins. Unlike the trolls, he was a gentleman with manners. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since 4/28/03: 228/200/165, Atkins Phase 2 Crossposted with purpose to: <alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea l th.diabetes,alt.support.diet Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike. I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating. John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician. The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness. I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. To Dr Chung: Thanks! Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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: As for Mu, <snip

Bad-Boys , Bad-boys ,..What ya gonna do when they come for for ? bad boys bad boys . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i can tell you something about him, during the last few months MU has been a very bad boy…

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: As for Mu, <snip

Bad-Boys , Bad-boys ,..What Ya Gonna Do When They Come For You ? bad-boys , bad-boys . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i can tell you something about him, during the last few months MU has been a very bad boy…

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Only if he crossposted his thoughts to off-topic groups. In which case, like yourself, he would have found himself in my twit-filter. — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Yeah, right. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school.

And I have a condo on Mars. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu .

You don’t say. But which is it; you found him on the Internet or he contacted you? My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others

Wow…or a fraud, perhaps? John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike.

Dozens and dozens! Oh My! I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating.

Seems that MU=Chung(=Mel?) John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician.

Was that a 2lb lunch? The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness.

Not to mention flatulence. Or was that fraudulence? I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000.

I guess then it was better than 2 years ago, not 1 year ago that he (it) contacted you? To Dr Chung: Thanks!

Yes, thanks, Mel (aka Roose/MU/Chung). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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Hi Dawn, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. And yet you post this using a non-existant, anonymous e-mail address. You claim to have attended Memphis State Uuniversity, Rhodes College and the U. of Tenn. medical school. Yet there’s no Dr. Mel (or Melvin) Hall listed working as a physician in Tennessee.

Medical schools turn out more than doctors. :-) Nurses and nurse practitioners come to mind. Mu went to UT med school and he’s not a doctor. Take care, Carmen

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Crossposted with purpose to: <alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.hea lth.diabetes,alt.support.diet Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school. Mu had contacted me better than a year ago regarding the TPD (Two Pound Diet). First, I can tell you his real name is not Mu . My ex-husband is an Internist and I passed the web page of Dr. Chung along to him. John is not Internet or Usenet affiliated so I believe that means he is either a horrible doctor or a fantastic one depending on the remarks made by others John has placed dozens upon dozens of his patients on the TPD. He tracks them as they return for office visits. Diabetics and non DM afflicted patients alike. I was very skeptical at first. Mu is an out of the box thinker, always has been, always will be. This "quirkiness" is what has driven him to be excellent and proficient in several business ventures. Mu’s reputation as a physical trainer notwithstanding. I was having a weight gain issue myself having failed on low-carb (Atkins), Ornish and many other ways of eating. John’s patients began developing histories in 2002. At the beginning of this year, we met over lunch and he relayed to me the "outstanding and astounding" success he and his patients have had on the TPD. John may not be great husband material but he is one great and caring physician. The numbers come to this. Over 85% had lasted on the diet for at least six months and every one of them had lost weight and had lost weigh on a controlled basis. No diabetic issues were reported. As of August, 2003. John had 48 patients on the TPD (starting with slightly over 55 if I remember correctly); in six months or less every patient had garbaged their food scales and could accurately assess food weights. More importantly, each patient had reported that they were unable to eat large amounts of food (over 3 pounds per day typically) without gastric distress and feelings of malaise and uncomfortableness. I began weighing my food January 15, 2003. It has worked for me; I report the same results that John has documented. As for Mu, if you have questions, I will be happy to answer them up to 1980 or so when we lost contact until 2000. To Dr Chung: Thanks! Mel Hall 165/130/125ish

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? PLONK!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Crossposted with purpose to: <alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology,misc.he alth.diabetes,alt.support.diet Hello, my name is Mel Hall and I am a graduate of the University of Tennessee Medical School. I am not here to post regarding my medical advice, to give medical advice or to solicit patients. I have been lurking off and on for months watching several medical newsgroups. I found these newsgroups that I am crossposting to through one named Mu. I know Mu and knew who he was within minutes of seeing a certain thread where he described in great detail Germantown and Memphis, Tennessee. These are two of my old haunts and that is where I met Mu as an undergraduate student at Memphis State University and Rhodes College. We both were seeking our degrees in the biological sciences and acceptance to medical school.

And yet you post this using a non-existant, anonymous e-mail address. You claim to have attended Memphis State Uuniversity, Rhodes College and the U. of Tenn. medical school. Yet there’s no Dr. Mel (or Melvin) Hall listed working as a physician in Tennessee. Would you care to give us a real e-mail address and more information on who you are and where you’re located? This would go a long way towards convincing people that you’re not just more of the same psycho Chung/Roose Usenet machine. Dawn (not holding my breath)

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