Diabetes Talking

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Yes, I realize that I placed multiple listings and was afraid that it may appear as SPAM. However, my reply should indicate that it is not and that the contents of the website, that I am so excited about, is genuine.

You just happen to be sponsored by a huge Life Insurance Company. Fer Shere Dude. SM Why Can’t I Tickle Myself?

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-0500: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Why not learn how to post on newsgroups properly? Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project A whit?  Since when have projects had "partners"? at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada. Never heard of it.  Since when have academic project participants been posting anonymously and using hotmail addresses? Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health. Pull the other one!  You’re a spammer, plain and simple, as nasty and money-grabbing as any other.  Kindly go forth and procreate. Yes, I realize that I placed multiple listings and was afraid that it may appear as SPAM. However, my reply should indicate that it is not and that the contents of the website, that I am so excited about, is genuine. This is a multi-partner project, the website was put together with input from individuals of many different organizations (click on "meet the team" to see who). Never heard of Lakehead University? Check out Lakehead’s website www.lakeheadu.ca

OK.  Would I find there evidence of your connection with the University? Finally, nowhere on the www.successfulaging.ca website are we or will we ask for money. To use the resources of the website you do not have to sign-up or leave your email. I to am aware of SPAM, which is why I refuse to leave my personal email in newsgroups. But rest assured, I last "m"). With the current resources, this is the only way to let people know about the website on a global scale.

You mean, you regard your website as important enough to abuse our (and other) newsgroups with off-topic advertising for it?  How is this not spam?  Perhaps we don’t quite share your perceptions about your importance, and are less than happy about posts which violate the charters of our newsgroups, and dilute their value. It is easy to criticize in a world of deceit, but one must be careful not to overgeneralize to those who are here for good intentions.  Peter Brink, Thunder Bay, ON, Canada

OK, Peter, thanks for your name.  But really, if your project were a scientific one, I’d be looking for details of your department, supervisor’s name, aim of research, and so forth, simply as a token of good faith.  And phrases like "Want to feal healthier?" and "I am so excited about it" and "we are a multi-partnered project" don’t exactly suggest scientific motivation. — Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

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Can you grab his advisor’s name, or the department at Lakehead U.? Most universities forbid any form of spam, and their personnel department/IT department/deans would be pretty angry about this sort of behavior.

I searched the Lakehead University website and came up with this news release. Go to http://www.lakeheadu.ca/~eventswww/successfulaging.html and you’ll find the news release along with names of contacts. I’m sure the folks at Lakehead U  would be interested in knowing that someone is abusing the newsgroups in their good name.

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OK, Peter, thanks for your name.  But really, if your project were a scientific one, I’d be looking for details of your department, supervisor’s name, aim of research, and so forth, simply as a token of good faith.  And phrases like "Want to feal healthier?" and "I am so excited about it" and "we are a multi-partnered project" don’t exactly suggest scientific motivation. The project and its connection with Lakehead U. seem legit. The project is partly funded by Manulife Financial- an insurance company with a special interest in keeping the Canadian population healthy. Perhaps Peter has a relationship with Manulife? That might explain his excitement. It’s no excuse to spam the newsgroups with cross-posts though.

Also. cross-posting is vastly, vastly preferable to sending the same thing individually to all the different groups and making people who happen to follow different groups read it again, and again, and again. But failing to correctly set a "Followup-To:" is grounds for flensing him with wet spaghetti. And again, it really smells like a miracle-cure-spam-scam from the format and style. It may even be in use to gather addresses to spam people, which seems a common use for semi-vaguely-legitimate website forms these days.

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Not X Posted to SEVEN groups The project and its connection with Lakehead U. seem legit. The project is partly funded by Manulife Financial- an insurance company with a special interest in keeping the Canadian population healthy.

Dead people don’t pay premiums. This is no small company keeping Canadians healthy. They just bought John Hancock Insurance Co. Perhaps you have heard of them. Perhaps Peter has a relationship with Manulife? That might explain his excitement. It’s no excuse to spam the newsgroups with cross-posts though. D. Monk

Sleepy If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.

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OK, Peter, thanks for your name.  But really, if your project were a scientific one, I’d be looking for details of your department, supervisor’s name, aim of research, and so forth, simply as a token of good faith.  And phrases like "Want to feal healthier?" and "I am so excited about it" and "we are a multi-partnered project" don’t exactly suggest scientific motivation. The project and its connection with Lakehead U. seem legit. The project is partly funded by Manulife Financial- an insurance company with a special interest in keeping the Canadian population healthy. Perhaps Peter has a relationship with Manulife? That might explain his excitement. It’s no excuse to spam the newsgroups with cross-posts though.

Can you grab his advisor’s name, or the department at Lakehead U.? Most universities forbid any form of spam, and their personnel department/IT department/deans would be pretty angry about this sort of behavior.

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OK, Peter, thanks for your name.  But really, if your project were a scientific one, I’d be looking for details of your department, supervisor’s name, aim of research, and so forth, simply as a token of good faith.  And phrases like "Want to feal healthier?" and "I am so excited about it" and "we are a multi-partnered project" don’t exactly suggest scientific motivation.

The project and its connection with Lakehead U. seem legit. The project is partly funded by Manulife Financial- an insurance company with a special interest in keeping the Canadian population healthy. Perhaps Peter has a relationship with Manulife? That might explain his excitement. It’s no excuse to spam the newsgroups with cross-posts though. D. Monk

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When I see the word "free" or "cure" I do not read those posts. Diabetes is not a trivial matter to us. In addition to diabetes we are plagued by people and organizations trying to get what money we have left.   Most are very good sales people but basically trying to make a easy buck.   We do not need or want that type. Most people here are aware of the problem and you will not find many here that are dumb enough to buy some line.   If anyone that buys into these claims that use the internet for free advertising has no need for this group. They need education on how salesmen works to get easy money.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yes, I realize that I placed multiple listings and was afraid that it may appear as SPAM. However, my reply should indicate that it is not and that the contents of the website, that I am so excited about, is genuine. This is a multi-partner project, the website was put together with input from individuals of many different organizations (click on "meet the team" to see who). Never heard of Lakehead University? Check out Lakehead’s website www.lakeheadu.ca Finally, nowhere on the www.successfulaging.ca website are we or will we ask for money. To use the resources of the website you do not have to sign-up or leave your email. I to am aware of SPAM, which is why I refuse to leave my personal email in newsgroups. But rest assured, I will answer any email sent With the current resources, this is the only way to let people know about the website on a global scale. It is easy to criticize in a world of deceit, but one must be careful not to overgeneralize to those who are here for good intentions. Peter Brink, Thunder Bay, ON, Canada This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Why not learn how to post on newsgroups properly? Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project A whit?  Since when have projects had "partners"? at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada. Never heard of it.  Since when have academic project participants been posting anonymously and using hotmail addresses? Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health. Pull the other one!  You’re a spammer, plain and simple, as nasty and money-grabbing as any other.  Kindly go forth and procreate. — Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

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Well, I LOOKED at your web site full of feel-good trash has anyone in your organization ever REASON a study? it does not look like it You are publishing references to PRESS reports about articles (NOT STUDIES) which are NOT definitive.. In most cases, the press report is taken from a press release written bu a flack who has no concept of the problem, AND, most important, someone writes a letter to JAMA or NEJM, or LANCET, which says "in my opinion, the sun comes up in the west", and the wire report says  " Researchers prove sun comes up in the west, a study by Hopkins, published in…." THEN, some twit like you QUOTES IT as FACT.  Ignoring ALL the other evidence. To point out just ONE item, you are trumpeting that Hopkins says you should take vitim for Macular Edema- I GO to Hopkins, for Macular Edema – in ALL the years I have gone there, I have NEVER been told to use any "supplements" or "vitimnes", and I go to one of the top people there. – ALSO, you ignore the fact that the FDA advises people NOT to take the stuff.  and there are LOTS of studies in Medline showing why you shouldn’t. Most of your other factoids are questionable, at best – but the SOUND like you have a clue. THEN, you SPAM the newsgroups with your "informational site" it IS spam – even if it is "non commercial" PLEASE go away – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, I realize that I placed multiple listings and was afraid that it may appear as SPAM. However, my reply should indicate that it is not and that the contents of the website, that I am so excited about, is genuine. This is a multi-partner project, the website was put together with input from individuals of many different organizations (click on "meet the team" to see who). Never heard of Lakehead University? Check out Lakehead’s website www.lakeheadu.ca Finally, nowhere on the www.successfulaging.ca website are we or will we ask for money. To use the resources of the website you do not have to sign-up or leave your email. I to am aware of SPAM, which is why I refuse to leave my personal email in newsgroups. But rest assured, I will answer any email sent With the current resources, this is the only way to let people know about the website on a global scale. It is easy to criticize in a world of deceit, but one must be careful not to overgeneralize to those who are here for good intentions. Peter Brink, Thunder Bay, ON, Canada This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Why not learn how to post on newsgroups properly? Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project A whit?  Since when have projects had "partners"? at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada. Never heard of it.  Since when have academic project participants been posting anonymously and using hotmail addresses? Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health. Pull the other one!  You’re a spammer, plain and simple, as nasty and money-grabbing as any other.  Kindly go forth and procreate. — Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

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Yes, I realize that I placed multiple listings and was afraid that it may appear as SPAM. However, my reply should indicate that it is not and that the contents of the website, that I am so excited about, is genuine. This is a multi-partner project, the website was put together with input from individuals of many different organizations (click on "meet the team" to see who). Never heard of Lakehead University? Check out Lakehead’s website www.lakeheadu.ca Finally, nowhere on the www.successfulaging.ca website are we or will we ask for money. To use the resources of the website you do not have to sign-up or leave your email. I to am aware of SPAM, which is why I refuse to leave my personal email in newsgroups. But rest assured, I will answer any email sent With the current resources, this is the only way to let people know about the website on a global scale. It is easy to criticize in a world of deceit, but one must be careful not to overgeneralize to those who are here for good intentions. Peter Brink, Thunder Bay, ON, Canada

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Why not learn how to post on newsgroups properly? Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project A whit?  Since when have projects had "partners"? at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada. Never heard of it.  Since when have academic project participants been posting anonymously and using hotmail addresses? Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health. Pull the other one!  You’re a spammer, plain and simple, as nasty and money-grabbing as any other.  Kindly go forth and procreate. — Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Why not learn how to post on newsgroups properly? Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project

A whit?  Since when have projects had "partners"? at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada.

Never heard of it.  Since when have academic project participants been posting anonymously and using hotmail addresses? Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health.

Pull the other one!  You’re a spammer, plain and simple, as nasty and money-grabbing as any other.  Kindly go forth and procreate. — Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

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Want to Feel Healthier? We are a multi-partnered project at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay ON, Canada. Overseen by a team of researchers and health experts, we are dedicated to the prevention of disease and the promotion of health. We offer a free and simple health Quiz that lets you assess your own health – it gives you immediate feedback! www.successfulaging.ca Everything on this website is FREE. When you fill out the quiz, the information you enter is completely confidential and remains confidential through the rules and regulations governed by the ethics board at Lakehead University. You also do not have to wait for the results, the results are beamed back to you in the blink of an eye. It is a wonderful quiz created by wonderful people. In the website there is also a weight watcher system. It is similar to other systems with the exception of one feature, ITS FREE. You can track your weight month by month and feel proud of the results. This website is the result of years of research and education and is provided to you at no cost, EVER!

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