Diabetes Talking

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Be sure to keep in mind that even *if* we do not suffer power outages on Jan 1st 2000 that disrupt the tap water supply……. It is entirely possible, and has been proven in several independent "Test Runs", that the water treatment computers that automatically add the chlorine and the fluoride CAN And DO fail.. adding 100 years worth of Chlorine and Fluoride at ONE TIME. Even though the water continues to flow…… you could be drinking extremely toxic water  "straight from the tap". Fair warning…. Carl A. Stiles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been working for our local city clerk’s office and ran across some interesting information concerning flouridating the water. Dr. Alfred Taylor, of the University of Texas, dept. of chemistry says, "It is really amazing how a piece of propaganda such as the flouridation program can continue to delude people long after it has been discredited as a health measure". R.J.Moorehead, M.D. Past president of American Physicians and Surgeons states that "Health authorities will not willingly give but one side of this issue because they know that when people are given both sides they will vote against flouridation". Asst. Professor James J. Rae, University of Toronto says, "I am opposed to flouridation because, it means adding a cumulative poison and well known enzyme inhibitor to our water supply, there is absoulutely no control over the dosage of flouride that any one individual will get.  It causes dental flourosis which is indicative of impairment in calcium metabolism.  It does not cure tooth decay, it is not needed to produce sound teeth and the public water supply should not be used as a means of giving drugs to children." Drs. Knight, Row and Brown of the Medical Center in Santa Monica, CA state thta flouride is one of hte most active and cumulative poisons on a par with arsenic and lead.  Should only be taken in measured doses under a close supervision and this is impossible through water supply and the dental hierarchy is, or should be, aware of these facts. Dr. Jonathan Forman M.D. Allergy Specialist, states "It is known that such vital organs as the kidneys, thyroad, aorta, liver, lungs and others can be the sites of an unusually high flouride buildup.  It accumulates in certain organs in an unpredictable way.  Flouride is an enzyme poison and midical authorities recognize that disturbances of the enzymes system are a cause of disease." Statement from the Citizens Committee Against Flouridation in LaCrosse, Wisconsin… "Solutions of sodium flouride with a flourine content of 1-15 million may inhibit the action of the pancreatic juices as much as 50 percent. From bulletin #130 of the state of utah agriculture collegs, on page 5 it states "flouride is a poison and long continued consumption of relatively small quantities causes flourosis".  Dr. Charles T. BettsD.D.S. states "flourine is a poison which is cumulative in the body, similar to radium.  No antidote is known.  Dr. Robert S. Harris, Professor of Bio-chemistry of Nutrition, Mass. Inst Oftechnology, says "flourine is a toxic (poison) element which has been shown to interfere with important body processes".    Artificially flouridated water is 85 times more toxic than naturally flouridated.  Persons with diabetes, or polydipsia (excessive thirst) would use as much as 20 times more than normal use of water per day corresponding to 20 or more milligrams of flouride if the water contained 1PPM of flouride.  This would also apply to persons working in the heat of the day. This information I obtained from public records in Washington state are dated 7-29-1968

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I have been working for our local city clerk’s office and ran across some interesting information concerning flouridating the water. Dr. Alfred Taylor, of the University of Texas, dept. of chemistry says, "It is really amazing how a piece of propaganda such as the flouridation program can continue to delude people long after it has been discredited as a health measure". R.J.Moorehead, M.D. Past president of American Physicians and Surgeons states that "Health authorities will not willingly give but one side of this issue because they know that when people are given both sides they will vote against flouridation". Asst. Professor James J. Rae, University of Toronto says, "I am opposed to flouridation because, it means adding a cumulative poison and well known enzyme inhibitor to our water supply, there is absoulutely no control over the dosage of flouride that any one individual will get.  It causes dental flourosis which is indicative of impairment in calcium metabolism.  It does not cure tooth decay, it is not needed to produce sound teeth and the public water supply should not be used as a means of giving drugs to children." Drs. Knight, Row and Brown of the Medical Center in Santa Monica, CA state thta flouride is one of hte most active and cumulative poisons on a par with arsenic and lead.  Should only be taken in measured doses under a close supervision and this is impossible through water supply and the dental hierarchy is, or should be, aware of these facts. Dr. Jonathan Forman M.D. Allergy Specialist, states "It is known that such vital organs as the kidneys, thyroad, aorta, liver, lungs and others can be the sites of an unusually high flouride buildup.  It accumulates in certain organs in an unpredictable way.  Flouride is an enzyme poison and midical authorities recognize that disturbances of the enzymes system are a cause of disease." Statement from the Citizens Committee Against Flouridation in LaCrosse, Wisconsin… "Solutions of sodium flouride with a flourine content of 1-15 million may inhibit the action of the pancreatic juices as much as 50 percent. From bulletin #130 of the state of utah agriculture collegs, on page 5 it states "flouride is a poison and long continued consumption of relatively small quantities causes flourosis".  Dr. Charles T. BettsD.D.S. states "flourine is a poison which is cumulative in the body, similar to radium.  No antidote is known.  Dr. Robert S. Harris, Professor of Bio-chemistry of Nutrition, Mass. Inst Oftechnology, says "flourine is a toxic (poison) element which has been shown to interfere with important body processes".    Artificially flouridated water is 85 times more toxic than naturally flouridated.  Persons with diabetes, or polydipsia (excessive thirst) would use as much as 20 times more than normal use of water per day corresponding to 20 or more milligrams of flouride if the water contained 1PPM of flouride.  This would also apply to persons working in the heat of the day. This information I obtained from public records in Washington state are dated 7-29-1968

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Troy, All I can say is DONT drink the water post Y2K. I dont care about the other stuff. Have a good day……. Carl A. Stiles PS. Paula and Raquel say *chill out dude*.! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea,Yea,Yea, of course it does all that, but how else are they going to get rid of all that toxic waste from aluminum… and make money to boot???  These companys have spent hundreds of dollars to figure out how not to pollute the fragile ecosystems that the endangered mosquitoes live in… and make money.  If you come up with a better solution than the people with all that money and political power you let us know ok. Troy Even though the water continues to flow…… you could be drinking extremely toxic water  "straight from the tap". Fair warning…. Carl A. Stiles I have been working for our local city clerk’s office and ran across some interesting information concerning flouridating the water. Dr. Alfred Taylor, of the University of Texas, dept. of chemistry says, "It is really amazing how a piece of propaganda such as the flouridation program can continue to delude people long after it has been discredited as a health measure".

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Yea,Yea,Yea, of course it does all that, but how else are they going to get rid of all that toxic waste from aluminum… and make money to boot???  These companys have spent hundreds of dollars to figure out how not to pollute the fragile ecosystems that the endangered mosquitoes live in… and make money.  If you come up with a better solution than the people with all that money and political power you let us know ok. Troy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Even though the water continues to flow…… you could be drinking extremely toxic water  "straight from the tap". Fair warning…. Carl A. Stiles I have been working for our local city clerk’s office and ran across some interesting information concerning flouridating the water. Dr. Alfred Taylor, of the University of Texas, dept. of chemistry says, "It is really amazing how a piece of propaganda such as the flouridation program can continue to delude people long after it has been discredited as a health measure".

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t… Troy, All I can say is DONT drink the water post Y2K. I dont care about the other stuff. Have a good day……. Carl A. Stiles PS. Paula and Raquel say *chill out dude*.!

Ok Man I’ll Chill and I won’t drink the water. I was just trying to be a little funny about a not so funny matter. I didn’t mean to sound CrAzeee. I just  think that if more people are educated about why its put in there more people will start to question their local governments and do something about it. I think you should post your article on several newsgroups the contents will I’m sure open many eyes and get people thinking about it and also may awaken some sleeping activist stop the flow of this poison byproduct. How much does a utility or a city spend fom its budget per year? could this money be better used elsewhere? shoot there I go again! Just don’t drink the water, got it cool, thanks for the eye opening info.

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Ok I see…. your really *not* crazy…. Yes, people should become informed, but fighting Fluoride treatment of the water is a "Crusade" at best for the near future. I have no idea what each city spends on Fluoride, but I’m sure its substantial simply due to the large volume of water. The problem that I see is that many people could become sick or even die post Y2K from just such an incident, and I’m thinking that it would even be a few days at best before the General Public actually got any warning or news of such an occurrence. Kinda like those E-Coli scares, or tainted food product recalls… Someone , or several people, had to get sick before  warnings and recalls could be given. I think that it might be best to NOT be one of those people  immediately after Y2K.. especially if tap sources remain available. I dont have a Fluoride test kit …. or access to one that I know of….. do you?  :) Drink from stored sources for a few days, and request your friends and family to ‘consider’ doing the same. If everything goes ok in your area… its time to invite all the neighbors over for a "Luau". I have no intent to "wake some sleeping activist", as all I want to do is simply inform the people reading *these two* groups of the potential for problems due to a computer date related failure sending your *approved* drinking water supplies through the pipes. Hopefully you wont become an unwitting *test subject* either. Best Regards, Carl A. Stiles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – e t… Troy, All I can say is DONT drink the water post Y2K. I dont care about the other stuff. Have a good day……. Carl A. Stiles PS. Paula and Raquel say *chill out dude*.! Ok Man I’ll Chill and I won’t drink the water. I was just trying to be a little funny about a not so funny matter. I didn’t mean to sound CrAzeee. I just  think that if more people are educated about why its put in there more people will start to question their local governments and do something about it. I think you should post your article on several newsgroups the contents will I’m sure open many eyes and get people thinking about it and also may awaken some sleeping activist stop the flow of this poison byproduct. How much does a utility or a city spend fom its budget per year? could this money be better used elsewhere? shoot there I go again! Just don’t drink the water, got it cool, thanks for the eye opening info.

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